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 Posted: Mon Oct 13th, 2008 10:13 pm

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...Americans with Diabilities Act(ADA) which requires that renovation be undertaken to provide access for persons which disabilities if access can be readily provided. However, this is a civil-rights law and not a code. As such it is not enforced by building officials... from Building Code illustraded by Ching 

ADA is not enforceable? What about ANSI? Which one should we follow when we encounter accessbility issue?  Should we use the most stringent one? Then how can we decide which one is the most stringent for each case? Checking up with AHU is the answer? 

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 Posted: Mon Oct 13th, 2008 11:58 pm

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ADA is civil rights legislation, and as such it is not enforced by building officials in its original form.
ANSI, ADAAG, etc. are invidually adopted accessibility interpretations/standards. The one you should use in "real life" is determined by your jurisdiction. Some states, such as California, have their own state-specific accessibility standards. Where standards such as ANSI or ADAAG are included in building codes they can be enforced as such.

For ARE purposes the referenced standard is ANSI A117.

There are many other other threads about this issue on this forum. In short: there are some conflicts between different accessibility standards. It's not always a situation in which one can choose to adopt the "most stringent", because two standards may be in direct conflict in terms of required dimensions of elements (i.e. it is impossible to meet both ADAAG and the California-mandated standard regarding something like an accessible shower, unless you provide two separate showers, because the dimensions in both cases aren't minimums but absolutes.)

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 Posted: Tue Oct 14th, 2008 01:21 am

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Agree: for the ARE, ANSI 117 is the one to focus on.

(That is the ANSI 117.1-98 year 1998 and not the 2003 version.)

Why? Changes, that's why.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 14th, 2008 03:34 pm

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question, some people use the 2003.  Why? is there conflicting issues with 1998 vs. 2003

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 Posted: Wed Oct 15th, 2008 06:51 pm

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It's up to the state as to which editions to adopt.
Some states tend to keep up with the latest version of each code and referenced standard. Others are routinely 3 to 8 years behind. In some they tend to continue reviewing and adopting editions in succession, while in others they go to the trouble of assembling a review panel and adopting a new version only every 5 years or more and are more likely to skip over the editions released in between.

And yes, there are some changes and conflicts between editions.

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