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Posted: Tue Oct 14th, 2008 04:37 pm |
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I cannot step forward without basic understanding of codes. 
Let's pretend I got commissioned a 2 stories community center in NYC.
I checked ICC and found out NYC adopted following;
- 2003 International Building Code
- 2003 International Energy Conservation Code
- 2003 International Fire Code
- 2003 International Fuel Gas Code
- 2003 International Mechanical Code
- 2003 International Plumbing Code
- 2003 International Property Maintenance Code
- 2003 International Residential Code
I checked Accessibility regulations and NYC adopted ;
New York State Building Code (IBC 2003) – Chapter 11
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Here is my question.
How can I figure out which other codes that I should check for my project? NFPA, ADAAG, NEC, ANSI......For example, to decide plumbing fixture, I might check IPC and then what else?? To whom can I ask which codes are missing for plumbing? AHJ will provide me a list of codes that I should consider?
I would greatly appreciate your answer.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14th, 2008 09:14 pm |
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| Start with the AHJ. They should have a list of all the applicable codes and regulations.
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stl-guy Architect
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Posted: Wed Oct 15th, 2008 04:59 am |
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bigapple wrote: I cannot step forward without basic understanding of codes. 
Let's pretend I got commissioned a 2 stories community center in NYC.
I checked ICC and found out NYC adopted following;
- 2003 International Building Code
- 2003 International Energy Conservation Code
- 2003 International Fire Code
- 2003 International Fuel Gas Code
- 2003 International Mechanical Code
- 2003 International Plumbing Code
- 2003 International Property Maintenance Code
- 2003 International Residential Code
I checked Accessibility regulations and NYC adopted ;
New York State Building Code (IBC 2003) – Chapter 11
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Here is my question.
How can I figure out which other codes that I should check for my project? NFPA, ADAAG, NEC, ANSI......For example, to decide plumbing fixture, I might check IPC and then what else?? To whom can I ask which codes are missing for plumbing? AHJ will provide me a list of codes that I should consider?
I would greatly appreciate your answer.
Any referenced standards listed in IBC becomes part of the model code adopted. Some local jurisdictions include additional amendments. Some states actually have adopted their own handicap statutes and ordnances.
ADAGG is a civil rights law that you should to be completely familiar with but It is not actually enforceable by most local building officials.
What is enforceable under IBC 2003 model code is the referenced standard to ICC/ANSI A-117.1-1998. This is very similar to current ADAAG but the scoping provisions are somewhat more specific by design.
Do review IBC chaprer 11 but Study ICC/ANSI A-117.1-1998 in detail.
IBC is a combined effort for an international model code. The latest version is IBC 2006.
NFPA, the Life safety Code is the choice of fire marshals and in some respects competes with IBC. The NFPA is however used when designing sprinkler systems. It can be complicated and confusing but the answer is both codes must be compared and the most stringent standard must be applied.
Since building officials and fire marshals do not always agree, compare both for the most stringent standard.
NEC is normally deferred to Consulting engineers I retain.
Sections of the International Plumbing code are actually published as a matter of convenience in IBC 2003 building code, Chapter 29.
The 2003 Energy Conservation Code is something new to many architects.It must meet current ASRAE 90.1 standards for the building envelope. The architect is expected to calculate the values for the building envelope the consultant engineers can do the rest required for lighting and HVAC.
Fire code is outlined and referenced in the IBC 2003 Building Code. Most pertains to R over four stories, I-2, I-3 occupancy and other high-rise buildings of 75' or more.
As of IBC 2006 this will will change and include most occupancies.
Last edited on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 05:51 am by stl-guy
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bigapple Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 15th, 2008 02:05 pm |
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| Wow. It is a almost a lecture on codes! Thank you very much.
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Posted: Wed Oct 15th, 2008 04:22 pm |
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ADAGG is a civil rights law that you should to be completely familiar with but It is not actually enforceable by most local building officials.
What is enforceable under IBC 2003 model code is the referenced standard to ICC/ANSI A-117.1-1998. This is very similar to current ADAAG but the scoping provisions are somewhat more specific by design.
stl-guy is a little confused on this.
ADA is civil rights legislation.
ADAAG is an accessibility standard, similar but with slight differences to ANSI A117.1, and similarly enforceable in places where it has been adopted as a referenced standard.
IBC does reference ANSI A117.1, but many states have addenda/deletions that replace or supplement ANSI A117.1 with ADAAG 1994, or with ADA-ABA, or with state specific accessibility standards.
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Posted: Wed Oct 15th, 2008 05:39 pm |
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ADA is "Americans with Disabilities Act", which is indeed civil rights legislation. Alone it is not a code, and can't be enforced as one.
ADAAG is "Americans with Disabilities Act Accessibility Guidelines", which is an accessibility standard and is adopted as part of the building code in many states.
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