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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 04:41 pm |
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HTF Do I Use the alts with Graphics Software?
(NOTE: I am posting this here since most newbies check this forum out first and this is applicable for all the vignettes).
Since many people aren't computer geeks like me, I've been meaning to post a step-by-step method for using the alts with the NCARB software (this was originally for archigator, who gave me permission to post this since our conversation was through PM--please thank her). Also, give a big thanks to Sajjad for making alts--he is the alt making god.
First download the 4.0 software, whether or not you are doing the 3.1 tests. The 4.0 software has been tweaked to run on Vista x86 (32-bit) version and a few other bugs resolved. Whether you are taking 3.1 or 4.0 is irrelevant since the graphic vignettes are the same in overall context, and you'll want to use the alts.
First, to help alleviate problems when viewing the files:
1) Open your Windows Explorer. When you look at the files, do you see an extension for all the file names? The extension is a dot (.) followed by 3 letters.
2) If not, you probably have the file view set for icons or something else. You want to be able to see the extension under Type in the Explorer menu.
Do this:
1) In Windows Explorer from the My Computer, look at top and you'll see Tools. Click on that and choose Folder Options
2) A menu will pop up. In that menu choose View.
3) You'll see a list with several boxes checked.
4) Scroll down to Hide Extensions for Known File Types. UNCHECK that box.
5) Next choose Apply to All Folders. A message will pop up. Just ignore it and click OK and then click OK to get out of the View menu.
6) Go to any file folder.
7) Now you should see the filename and the . and an extension.
9) Now when you click on Type, the sort will be helpful, particularly when loading the alts.
(These directions are for Windows XP, but Vista is similar).
Now to the software!
Download the 4.0 software and install it. Very simple. You can run the particular graphic vignette you've loaded or any of the other ones.
Step-by-step Directions for Using the Alt files
1) Go to your C: drive in My Computer, chose the Program Files folder, and you'll see a folder called NCARB where the NCARB practice software was loaded. Open up that folder. In that folder, you'll see a folder or folders listing the graphic vignettes you've loaded (eg: C: \ Program Files \ NCARB \ Site Planning and Design).
2) Pick the one that you are planning to use with the alternate vignettes. When you are looking around in that folder, you will see files ending in .AUT and .DWG. The .AUT files are the program information and .DWG files are the templates for the practice vignettes. This is the important stuff.
3) Since you are in that folder, make a new folder called BACKUP. This is good policy so you don't corrupt your original files. Next, in the pane that lists the files, move to the sub-title bar information and click on Type. This sorts the files by their extension.
4) Select all the .AUT and .DWG files and Copy those. Click on your BACKUP folder and Paste those files into the BACKUP folder. Next, go back into your vignette folder.
5) Make a another folder called ALTS. This isn't absolute, but again, good policy. After that, head to the FTP site.
6) When you find the alternate(s) that you want to play with, Right-Click on the file(s) and choose the Save Link As (in Mozilla) or Save Target As (in IE). A window will pop-up showing your My Documents or another folder, but you want to Browse to the ALTS folder in your vignette folder. Save the .DWG file(s) and any .AUT file(s) that go with that particular alt. vignette (not all will have corresponding .AUT files). Also, save any .DOC files that explain the program directions for the alt. vignette.
7) The files will you are wanting to practice with have similar file names to the original vignettes. This is important, because you will have to make the alt. file have the same name as the original.
8) Go to your ALTS folder and Copy the .DWG (and .AUT file, if any). Click back into your vignette folder and Paste the files. Notice that you will have a file(s) with similar names to the original.
9) Using C#TUT#W1.DWG as an example, make note what the original exact file name is (best to write it down). Afterwards, delete the original file (no fear--remember, we backed the originals up in our BACKUP folder).
10) Now, Rename the alt. that you pasted into the vignette folder to have the exact same name as the original (the first 8 letters/numbers are all that changes). You have to change the .AUT file also (if the alt. had one), such as C#TUT#W1.AUT
11) Since the alt. files have .DOC files that explain the program directions for the alt. vignette, it is a good idea to print that out now.
12) Crank up the practice software! When you choose the vignette that you are wanting to practice, the software may give you an error that says the DWG has changed. Just ignore it and click OK.
13) Get to work!
14) After you are done, you'll probably want to post your solution for review. With the view zoomed out, hold down your CTRL key and hit the PRT SC (Print Screen) key (upper right-hand of the keyboard).
15) Go to your Start Menu, open it, click Accessories, and chose Paint. Go to the Edit Menu in Paint and click Paste. The image made by hitting CTRL & PRT SC will appear. If you want to touch it up a bit in Paint, go ahead.
16) Now you want to Save the file. If you want, just Save it to your My Documents folder since Windows defaults to that folder. IMPORTANT NOTE: When you Save the file, do not let it Save as a .BMP file. Those are too large and just Windows crap. Click on the extension pulldown menu that is below the filename. Choose .JPG. This is the standard for WWW viewing. You can name the file image file anything you like.
17) Head over the appropriate forum. When you make a thread or post in a thread, at the bottom of the message pane is a Browse button for attachments. Write a message and then use the Browse button to find the .JPG file of your vignette that you Saved. It generally defaults to the My Documents folder.
18) Click the file and let your browser do its business. Post just like a normal text reply or thread and if all goes well, you should see your .JPG image in the thread.
That's it!
As an aside, you may have looked at my graphics threads and seen links to my practice. Since I have my own servers, I use my own FTP system to upload the files to them. I use links instead of displaying the files directly so that anyone with dial-up to broadband speeds can skim my threads without lag. It's my own personal preference and not a mandatory thing.
If you have any questions, post here, and I or someone else will help out.
Last edited on Sun Jun 8th, 2008 07:54 pm by ironwarrior
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ironwarrior
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 06:07 pm |
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| bumper-roo!
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 01:44 am |
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IW,
Thanks, as one who trys to crit on a regular basis I know nothing about the FTP or ALt sites. A big thank you. Gsaarinen
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 08:17 pm |
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THANK YOU Ironwarrior! - I"ve been struggling with this for the past 2 days - I've managed to make some of them work, but can't seem to find any rhyme or reason how i've done it. (Vista has it's own set of issues with the NCARB software, but that's another story) Anyway, thanks for the instructions - i'll print them out and give it another try.!
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 04:41 pm |
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It seems that every problem I've encountered is addressed somewhere in the Forum. I should have done a search on this one when I first encountered this problem. THANKS for taking the time to help everyone. I will try it.
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 09:03 pm |
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Just doing my part to help! It's the least I could do since reading my other posts/rants/reflections has been labeled a form of inhumane torture and banned in some countries.
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If someone encounters some specific problems as it relates to the graphics software or the alts that hasn't been addressed, feel free to post the issue in here BUT provide the following:
1) The OS you are using (XP, Vista x86 or x64, Win Server)
2) The graphics card you are using.
3) A detailed explanation of the error and what you did when it occurred.
Troubleshooting via the internet is a difficult process, so the more information, the better. If I need more information when I read the problem, I'll go from there.
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 11:10 pm |
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ironwarrior wrote: If someone encounters some specific problems as it relates to the graphics software or the alts that hasn't been addressed, feel free to post the issue in here Uh, ok... BUT provide the following:
1) The OS you are using (XP, Vista x86 or x64, Win Server) XP Pro 2) The graphics card you are using. POS Inc. Model 666 -- The Dumas Limited Edition w/0.00 K VRAM 3) A detailed explanation of the error and what you did when it occurred. IT guy learnt all he knows from modding his Playstation. "Give me your tweazers, lemme sterilize them."
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Posted: Sat Jun 28th, 2008 01:53 am |
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Oh, crap....HELP!! I'm truly ROFLMAO! I can't stop laughing. I think I just peed my pants....
HA-ha---man, that is good!
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Posted: Sun Jun 29th, 2008 08:39 pm |
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How do you get Admin here to sticky it? I notice all the ones that are stickied are really old. Full of great information, and should stay stickied, but they don't seem to be doing that with any newer ones.
Hmmm? Besides, this one needed a bump!
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Posted: Mon Jun 30th, 2008 06:44 am |
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Posted: Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 12:49 am |
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Hi Ironwarrior,
I did send the moderator areforum person and personal message about this thread, it needs to be stickied to the top. I have not heard from them at all and that was maybe 2 days ago.
No sense in retyping stuff everytime a new person starts on the website.
Well, here we go again, BUMP!
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Posted: Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 12:50 am |
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IW, Maybe edit the HTF out of the first line??? Still good information.
Thanks,
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Posted: Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 01:32 am |
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dottie wrote: How do you get Admin here to sticky it? I notice all the ones that are stickied are really old. Full of great information, and should stay stickied, but they don't seem to be doing that with any newer ones.
Hmmm? Besides, this one needed a bump!
Iron warriors notes are very good and can and should be kept on the FTP.
Forum admin will probably decline to act on this in any way. Alternate programs are tolerated so far by NCARB but not sanctioned and could be in some instances, considered copyright infringement of intellectual property. It would be in the forum's best interest to do nothing.
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 01:57 pm |
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IW - any structions on how to create an alt? I was attempting it, but had to ditch due to work and stuff. I sent a PM to sajjad but got no response... I'd love to be able to take the P&P vignettes and use them as alts w/ the practice software.
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 05:38 pm |
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Ask and THOU SHALL RECEIVE!....well, kind of...
Check out what I posted in this thread in November of last year. I know its not really, really clear on some of the directions, but I was writing to Sajjad.
http://www.areforum.org/forums/forum8/33673.html
If I get time *laughs maniacally and cries*, I'll try to write something more detailed, but it could get lengthy....real lengthy. BUT, everyone here is used to my "brief" and "short" posts so a long and rambling post would be new wouldn't it? (ha-ha)
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 05:45 pm |
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This place wouldn't be home without your tomes, M!
And I love ya for them... much better than ripping my hair out (I pay way too much to keep my roots blonde), and much more entertaining than Star Trek reruns. 
Thanks for the info.
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 05:49 pm |
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Forum admin will probably decline to act on this in any way. Alternate programs are tolerated so far by NCARB but not sanctioned and could be in some instances, considered copyright infringement of intellectual property. It would be in the forum's best interest to do nothing.
Stl, I figured that was the case. Since I tend to interpret copyright law in my own fashion and to protect the Forum, anything I think might be questionable, I upload to my server(s) and tell everyone not to upload it. Hell, I tend to upload all my stuff to my server(s) anyway.
If NCARB wants to go after me regarding alts, let them bring it--they'll get a lesson in WAR and a humiliating lesson in copyright law that will open them to anti-trust scrutiny.
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 06:21 pm |
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Thanks to Sajjad for making such amaging software utiity. You are realy briliant. And also thanks to ironwarrior for teling us the use of this utility. I am fond of new softwares and Gadgets. If you have suggestions for me please follow the link.
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 11:11 pm |
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ironwarrior wrote:
Forum admin will probably decline to act on this in any way. Alternate programs are tolerated so far by NCARB but not sanctioned and could be in some instances, considered copyright infringement of intellectual property. It would be in the forum's best interest to do nothing.
Stl, I figured that was the case. Since I tend to interpret copyright law in my own fashion and to protect the Forum, anything I think might be questionable, I upload to my server(s) and tell everyone not to upload it. Hell, I tend to upload all my stuff to my server(s) anyway.
If NCARB wants to go after me regarding alts, let them bring it--they'll get a lesson in WAR and a humiliating lesson in copyright law that will open them to anti-trust scrutiny
IW,
Your notes are informative and should be posted to the forum FTP.
It is just my gut feeling that Admin will want to remain neutral on this.
Like Jack Danial Whiskey, It it is shipped all over the world but produced in a dry county. Not illegal to produce, just not legal to serve some places.
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Posted: Fri Jul 4th, 2008 12:05 am |
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In my opinion, there's nothing in this thread that violates copyright.
Nor does replacement of one set of .dwg and .aut files with another.
With some software, these acts might be construed as a violation of a license agreement...but with the NCARB software there is no license agreement between the user and the software publisher.
I believe that modification of the original files (rather than replacement), or the creation derivative content based on copywritten works such as Solutions might constitute a violation (but I'm not an attorney).
But the only copyright which can be violated here is the reproduciton of IW's instructions without permission.
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Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 11:47 pm |
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Bumper-ranza-roo!
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Since all went to hell this summer and I'm NOT going to be able to study for my software developer's professional accreditation, I've been thinking of writing up some documentation for creating alts.
I'm "supposed" to be a software architect/engineer and building architect so maybe I should apply my geek-speak and develop a cohesive methodology to create alts for the graphic programs. Creating alts is fairly simple BUT actually documenting everything according to the Software Engineering Body of Knowledge (the HOLY WORD for software developers) is time-intensive.
Why not just make some quicky? Part of the frustration for end-users is documentation for software makes a lot of assumptions regarding previous knowledge...and we all know what ASSUME really means. Also, I can use this work as part of the experience when I apply to take my Certified Software Development Professional (CSDP) exam.
As a bonus, I know it will piss NCRAP off to no end if people actually can use their masterfully crappy software in a manner that is actually helpful.
One caveat: don't expect anything soon but I should have something within the coming months. I'm buried with work and school and anime....anime IS life after all. Of course, all may go down the crapper as my previous plans have, but at least you can trust I'll bitch about things 
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| bump! You go IW!
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Posted: Mon Sep 8th, 2008 05:33 am |
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Help!!! I started studying for the graphics divisions a year ago then totally dropped the ball after running into complications trying to figure out how to download/upload "alts". This process is far more challenging to me than the actual test material. So I found your detailed step by step instructions and am still failing.
In step 1 I went to C drive then Program Files, then NCARB folder. Inside that folder there's another folder entitled My Product Name and inside that folder there are all of these icons with names like DWG32SR.DLL and GONCARB.EXE. Under C drive there's another folder called NCARBPP that contains files such as C1TUT.AUT and C2TUT2W1.DWG but nothing that would give me a clue as to what they are.
Have also visited the FTP site and don't see anything listed there that refers to alts or site design. what am I missing???
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Posted: Mon Sep 8th, 2008 07:05 am |
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Hi capufurg,
Do you have an IT in your office or a fairly computer savvy friend? I would suggest having someone you know help and show you how. I am no computer whiz, but I figured it out.
Just push the FTP button the top right hand area of the screen. Go to the test you are practicing for, Site Planning, Building Planning or Building Technology. You will see those captions, click on those. Anything that says ALT on it will have something to do with it. Just follow Ironwarrior's directions, very easy. Don't worry about doing alts until you get really familiar with the NCARB program, either that or bored with it and need more challenge. Follow the instructions one at a time and very carefully. Be sure to print them off so you always have them.
Site planning has some videos on the FTP on how to build parking lots, be sure to watch those, very helpful.
Good Luck!
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Hi,
I was downloading the alts but there doesn't seem to be alternative .AUT files in the FTP building technology folder - I understand and was able to download new plans and they worked just fine in the vignettes but as for instructions (program etc.) these seemed to be missing ...
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dottie
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 02:10 am |
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The programs are in the FTP. You have to print those out and use them that way.
Good Luck!
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