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 Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 07:55 pm

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I found the following while I am searching for a title to put on a business card.

A title that uses the words “architect” or “architectural” is a violation of Florida law unless the person is licensed. A violation could result in a fine of $5,000.00. The Board takes these violations very seriously because it is misleading to the public to use any of these titles unless you are licensed.

 

My Question is:

is there any similar restriction in NJ?

what do you do if a friend want you to help design her kitchen with at least 1 wall down.? should i took the job, should i pass it.?

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 Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 08:32 pm

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I believe it's the same in NJ and NY.

I think any work that requires that an architect or an engineer sign off on it with the building department (i.e. taking a wall down) would require just that, an architect or an engineer to sign off on it.

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 Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 08:35 pm

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GiGi wrote: is there any similar restriction in NJ?Check the laws, they're online.what do you do if a friend want you to help design her kitchen with at least 1 wall down.? should i took the job, should i pass it.?From what I recall of NJ law, you cannot do it without a license. NJ has one of, if not the most, licensee turf protection laws in the nation.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 10:31 pm

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Here is an interesting article regarding a man who ran for City Council in Aspen, *** back in 2006.  He ran on a platform in which he described himself as an "architect" to convey his skill-set to the public.  He is not a licensed architect in any state.  The *** Board of Examiners of Architects issued an order to him to cease calling himself an architect.  He sued.  He won.  I'd be interested to see how people feel about this as a precedent... he referred to himself as an architect, but in a non-professional, non-architectural setting.

http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20060510/NEWS/105100034


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 Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 11:58 pm

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Pretty crazy article.  Until you have to wait for NCARB's painfully slow test results you just cannot say it as far as I am concerned. 

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 Posted: Thu Aug 21st, 2008 02:30 pm

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You can call yourself any you want, until someone hires you thinking it's true. Then it is deception.

Just cause someone finishes law school that doesn't make them a lawyer.

I work with a guy who went to school for mechicanical engineering.  He tells people hes an engineer. When I know he's never even done the internship. It drives me nuts

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 Posted: Thu Aug 21st, 2008 03:16 pm

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mtnarc wrote: Here is an interesting article regarding a man who ran for City Council in Aspen, *** back in 2006.  He ran on a platform in which he described himself as an "architect" to convey his skill-set to the public.  He is not a licensed architect in any state.  The *** Board of Examiners of Architects issued an order to him to cease calling himself an architect.  He sued.  He won.  I'd be interested to see how people feel about this as a precedent... he referred to himself as an architect, but in a non-professional, non-architectural setting.

http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20060510/NEWS/105100034




It's been discussed here in the forum before.

As I recall, the case was argued in State Court and decided on the basis of the particular language used in the State Statues and Board Regulations.

In my opinion, it is unlikely to serve as precedent in other States.

I recommend speaking with your attorney before letting it influence your actions.

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 Posted: Thu Aug 21st, 2008 04:09 pm

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Agreed.  I don't think it was necessarily a smart decision on his part.  And, of course, I am in the camp that believes that one should not call themselves an Architect without first passing all of their ARE tests and has a certificate in a frame on the wall!  :)

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 Posted: Thu Aug 21st, 2008 05:43 pm

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Awww, but it took 2 months after I passed all the tests to get my signed certificate.  Does that mean I couldn't call myself an Architect until that certificate came?  :)

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tennis4you wrote: Awww, but it took 2 months after I passed all the tests to get my signed certificate.  Does that mean I couldn't call myself an Architect until that certificate came?  :)

I think if your state post the status of Licensed Architect, you can call yourself an Architect the day they post your info on their web. At least it works for my state, you would probably have to check with yours.

Or even better, if you are going to get AIA, AIA is willing to give you their designation after you pay them $. It takes only 1 day. If your company pays for the due, it will make it even better.

To me, the earlier you get your title, the earlier you can negoiate a raise with your boss.

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