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second life
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Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 08:46 pm |
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I am looking to keep track of layoffs in the NYC area. Anyone know if there any good sites / blogs that do this already? I am looking for specific info broken down by firms.
for example, I have heard rumors that shop architecture shed a number of staff recently. I have heard similar stories of REX architecutre. i have not been able to confirm this, however.
true?
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second life
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Posted: Thu Oct 16th, 2008 04:58 am |
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surprisingly, no one knows anything about this, or cares...
so ill start:
SOM, unconfirmed.
GEHRY, unconfirmed.
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Posted: Thu Oct 16th, 2008 05:22 am |
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second life wrote: I am looking to keep track of layoffs in the NYC area. Anyone know if there any good sites / blogs that do this already? I am looking for specific info broken down by firms.
for example, I have heard rumors that shop architecture shed a number of staff recently. I have heard similar stories of REX architecutre. i have not been able to confirm this, however.
true?
It happens.
Gloom, doom and despairer will not help.
Times may get tough but good people will be retained.
Not good to dwell on this subject.
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Posted: Thu Oct 16th, 2008 06:40 am |
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stl-guy wrote: second life wrote: I am looking to keep track of layoffs in the NYC area. Anyone know if there any good sites / blogs that do this already? I am looking for specific info broken down by firms.
for example, I have heard rumors that shop architecture shed a number of staff recently. I have heard similar stories of REX architecutre. i have not been able to confirm this, however.
true?
It happens.
Gloom, doom and despairer will not help.
Times may get tough but good people will be retained.
Not good to dwell on this subject.
Ya with stl-guy I would agree, don't dwell on it, look ahead, BE SMART, look for opportunities and think outside of the box.
Excel at what you like to do. Others will appreciate it.
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Posted: Thu Oct 16th, 2008 03:04 pm |
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stl-guy wrote: It happens.
Gloom, doom and despairer will not help.
Times may get tough but good people will be retained.
Not good to dwell on this subject.
Nonsense.
If the firm goes belly-up, even the best employees are unemployed.
Even in firms that don't go under, good employees are often let go. That's the way business works. It ain't personal. The last person laid off will always be the Owner becuase they can work for free.
In my opinion, being realistic never hurt anyone.
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Posted: Fri Oct 17th, 2008 05:32 am |
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More than a few in this community are young enough , not to have experienced the cycle of significant economic downturn. My experience is that when the private money dries up, the Fed will interject capitol into the system (see any newspaper, any day, for last 4 weeks).
During the downturn in the early 90's, I ended up doing CM work for government bonded school modernizations. It was an unwanted path in my career, but one that greatly enhanced my practical experience resume.
If you are forced out, search for "your cheese" with an eye on flexability, diversity and a willingness to use your skills in ways that are outside of the box...for now.
Best wishes to all of us during these difficult times.
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second life
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Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2008 10:17 pm |
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I actually started this post to get some perspective on how the major architectural firms are doing these days given what is going on economically...my intention was not to spread any kind of doom and gloom sentiment. people loose jobs, people get jobs...it can be tough sometimes, but it's business.
Loosing a job in this country is very stressful and understandably so. Not knowing when the next pay check will come is a big cause for concern. But if this was not the case, and loosing a job would not change one's ability to live stress free between jobs, I think this would not be such a big deal. i doubt that would ever be possible in this country tho.
in Denmark, for example, where taxes are much higher (but there is a generous safety net in return) the government actually "takes care" of you...and even finds you a job...interesting article about their safety system: http://www.usatoday.com/money/world/2007-03-06-denmark-usat_N.htm
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Posted: Mon Oct 20th, 2008 05:28 am |
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brudgers wrote: stl-guy wrote: It happens.
Gloom, doom and despairer will not help.
Times may get tough but good people will be retained.
Not good to dwell on this subject.
Nonsense.
If the firm goes belly-up, even the best employees are unemployed.
Even in firms that don't go under, good employees are often let go. That's the way business works. It ain't personal. The last person laid off will always be the Owner becuase they can work for free.
In my opinion, being realistic never hurt anyone.
Not nonsense at all. Once again you are making up an opinion not based on fact. You are a one person show. How could you possibly know without the experience of working for a large firm?
We have had a coupe of major downturns with the economy where I was asked by my firm to take a temporary pay cut. Only management was asked to do so and we all did it willingly as a matter of prudent business.
Each time, we recovered stronger and all of us were rewarded with bonus's, not
lay-offs. We will get through this cycle too.
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Posted: Mon Oct 20th, 2008 03:34 pm |
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stl-guy wrote: Not nonsense at all. Once again you are making up an opinion not based on fact. You are a one person show. How could you possibly know without the experience of working for a large firm? Maybe you should question your assumption then? Regardless, large firms go out of existence too. Where's TAC? Whatever happened to Z-Plan?
We have had a coupe of major downturns with the economy where I was asked by my firm to take a temporary pay cut. Only management was asked to do so and we all did it willingly as a matter of prudent business.
If you think that's the way it usually goes down, then your head is in a place where the sun doesn't shine.
Each time, we recovered stronger and all of us were rewarded with bonus's, not
lay-offs. We will get through this cycle too.
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Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2008 12:23 am |
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brudgers wrote: stl-guy wrote: It happens.
Gloom, doom and despairer will not help.
Times may get tough but good people will be retained.
Not good to dwell on this subject.
Nonsense. Again with the 'correct' opinion.
If the firm goes belly-up, even the best employees are unemployed. The best employees are usually picked up quickly by other firms.
Even in firms that don't go under, good employees are often let go. That's the way business works. It ain't personal. The last person laid off will always be the Owner becuase they can work for free.
In my opinion, being realistic never hurt anyone. keep a smile on your face, keep yourself busy and keep positive. negative vibes (posts) raely help anyone.
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Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2008 02:45 pm |
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Firms hire based on specific experience.
When a market sector undergoes a downturn, even the most talented people will be playing against the house.
Everyone isn't "most talented."
In an economic downturn, landing a job often is dependent on chance and hard work.
The best long-term strategy, in my opinion, is to get a license.
It provides more options.
The best short term strategy is, in my opinion, to network.
A little within the profession and a lot outside it.
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Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2008 04:19 pm |
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brudgers wrote: Firms hire based on specific experience.
When a market sector undergoes a downturn, even the most talented people will be playing against the house.
Everyone isn't "most talented."
In an economic downturn, landing a job often is dependent on chance and hard work.
The best long-term strategy, in my opinion, is to get a license.
It provides more options.
The best short term strategy is, in my opinion, to network.
A little within the profession and a lot outside it.
I agree with Brudgers completely. IMO, getting licensed is one of the best things you can do for yourself, for your family, and for your firm. Firms will know you've made the commitment to getting licensed and if they can bill you out as licensed, they'll typically make more $$$.
Although I'm sure not everyone is able to do this, I'm actually taking time off of work (full-time at least) to complete my last 4 exams before even starting to look for another position.
I worked full-time, started taking my exams, got married, had a child, and found it harder then ever to study while listening to my newborn son giggling in the next room. So...I saved up some finances, transitioned out of my firm in San Diego (who I still do consulting work with) and moved to upstate NY to raise a family (with a stay at home wife).
The 4 months I plan to take off gives me more than enough time to study and I even get to spend time (some) with my wife and son. If (God forbid) I'm unable to successfully complete my last four before December 30, I'll at least have one more shot at each before the transition to ARE 4.0 at the end of June.
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Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2008 06:29 pm |
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Flick wrote: if they can bill you out as licensed, they'll typically make more $$$. I've seen this fallacy too many times. Time to respond. (Don't take it personally Flilck, it's just timing.) You don't magically bill & make more just because somebody's got a license. If you can, due to their capabilities and efficiency, then you were underbilling before. That's the short response. The long one involves methods of payment and how hourly rates are not shown (or shouldn't be) on billings for most contracts.
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Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2008 06:37 pm |
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| coach is right. the licence isn't a magic switch. i wish it was.
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Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2008 06:48 pm |
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Coach wrote: Flick wrote: if they can bill you out as licensed, they'll typically make more $$$. I've seen this fallacy too many times. Time to respond. (Don't take it personally Flilck, it's just timing.) You don't magically bill & make more just because somebody's got a license. If you can, due to their capabilities and efficiency, then you were underbilling before. That's the short response. The long one involves methods of payment and how hourly rates are not shown (or shouldn't be) on billings for most contracts.
Couldn't agree more coach (nothing taken personally)! That's why I indicated "typically". Typically, the firm might be able to bill more, but it depends on the methods of billing, how many chiefs are already involved on the Project, the type of work the firm does, etc, etc, etc... There's a lot of factors involved in whether or not the firm would make more. In certain sanctions, such as with Federal projects, we've had to prove who was/was not licensed in order to justify our fees.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2008 03:07 pm |
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rex, coming out from oma, theyre kind of like star architects. big firms like som,hok always lay off a fair amount of people without warning. a friend of mine knew a people getting wiped out ..economy too i think is another reason.
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Posted: Sat Oct 25th, 2008 05:58 pm |
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second life wrote: surprisingly, no one knows anything about this, or cares...
so ill start:
SOM, unconfirmed.
GEHRY, unconfirmed.
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RAMSA, unconfirmed
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Posted: Sat Oct 25th, 2008 11:46 pm |
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Heard it through the grapevine. People at these firms, please confirm:
FXFowle - consolidating space
Rockwell - layoffs
Hillier group - layoffs
Generally speaking, the architectural firms with more foreign projects and in retail are still doing well. But even those area are starting to get affected.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 05:36 am |
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there must be a lot of bad employees out there with all these layoffs:
http://www.archinect.com/forum/threads.php?id=81575_0_42_0_C
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Posted: Wed Oct 29th, 2008 03:09 am |
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TPG - third round of layoffs
Callison - layoffs
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Posted: Wed Oct 29th, 2008 03:25 am |
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Stantec Architecture NYC - layoffs (me being one of them)
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second life
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Posted: Sat Nov 1st, 2008 08:52 pm |
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jay boogs wrote: Stantec Architecture NYC - layoffs (me being one of them)
sorry to hear that.
how you coping?
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Posted: Sat Nov 8th, 2008 01:57 am |
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Richard Meier layoffs.
Gruzen Sampton layoffs.
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Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2008 08:04 pm |
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aka gogo wrote:
TPG - third round of layoffs
Callison - layoffs
Callison is having layoffs AND simultaneously running ads in Oculus for architecture jobs. WTF?
http://www.aiany.org/eOCULUS/2008/2008-10-30.html#classifieds
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 03:43 am |
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second life wrote: jay boogs wrote: Stantec Architecture NYC - layoffs (me being one of them)
sorry to hear that.
how you coping?
I landed on my feet. I got a great job at an A/E Firm a block from my house, I make more than I did before and love it. I'm very happy to be blessed in finding something as quickly as it did (felt like forever tho).
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 04:01 am |
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In NYC i heard there is alot of layoffs....But when the projects stop the layoff would diff happen. It's always the big offices that does the most layoff......when time is bad the smaller offices wouldn't be affacted by it as much cause they make a living from every type of projects
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| what type of work do you do at the A/E firm?
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Posted: Fri Nov 14th, 2008 01:24 pm |
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WS wrote: what type of work do you do at the A/E firm?
I work mainly on NYC SCA (School Construction Authority), restoration and building rehabilatation projects. Most are commercial/institutional not much residential. A good mix of things to get me experienced. In house Structural, MEP and HVAC. Work environment and pay are great.
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second life
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Posted: Sat Nov 15th, 2008 11:44 pm |
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lucky you!
the situation in our small firm is getting more and more precarious. luckily our major clients are still sending in checks....so we continue to float.
i have heard rumors that NYC SCA does not have a very good reputation when it comes to paying their bills...is this true?
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We're doing pretty well. They have worked with the NYC SCA for many many years and I worked at my previous job with the SCA also. They are pretty prompt..
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