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globalevine
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Posted: Sun Aug 17th, 2008 11:13 pm |
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1st question - architect's roles:
design phases - the architect acts as an independent contractor for the owner
contract administration phase - the architect then acts both as an agent of the owner, and as an impartial quasi-judicial officer
-how does an architect practically act as the agent of one party to a contract (the owner) and as the arbiter of the contract (owner-contractor) at the same time?
-would a decent response to some question about this be: the architect must act in the best interest of the owner without exhibiting bias in interpretation of the contract documents, even when this means admitting errors or omissions in the archtect's own work. the quasi-judicial authority granted to the architect is not binding and either party may choose to pursue further legal action per the owner-contractor agreement (B141), but any determination made by the architect will likely be considered in any further legal proceedings. this quasi-judicial authority should be used to keep the project on schedule to the extent possible by evaluating change orders and issuing construction change directives if necessary.
2nd question - what is the standard procedure for evaluation shop drawings?
-unless noted otherwise in A201 or other general or supplementary conditions - subcontractor or supplier submits shop drawings to general contractor for review, if approved for onsite-dimensions and constructability, these shop drawings are stamped by contractor and forwarded to architect who reviews for design intent and adherence to the contract documents and if approved stamps them and returns them to the general contractor to be returned to subcontractor and built. the architect should keep a log tracking receipt and processing of all submissions including shop drawings.
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Arch-PM in CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 18th, 2008 06:20 pm |
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| With reference to question #2, I have never "Approved" shop drawings, only review them for design intent conformance.
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hapyhour
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 07:43 pm |
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The architect does not act as an arbiter. He is the best person to make interpretation of design intent. If the contractor or owner does not agree with his interpretation, they have every right bring their griviences into the civil court, be it arbitration or jury trial or some other form of settlement.
The second question, your summary is great, other than the word approved.
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 12:43 am |
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hapyhour wrote: The second question, your summary is great, other than the word approved. Please review section 4.2.7 of AIA Doc A201. The Architect has to take action on submittals such as shop dwgs. One option is to approve them.
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 12:24 am |
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Arch-PM in CA wrote: With reference to question #2, I have never "Approved" shop drawings, only review them for design intent conformance.
really? what about AIA A201 3.12.7
"The Contractor shall perform no portion of the Work for which the Contract Documents require submittal and review of Shop Drawings, Product Data, Samples or similar submittals until the respective submittal has been APPROVED by the architect."
i know things don't always get done according to "the book" in working practice, but since the exam tests your "by the book" knowledge, it seems that "approve" would be the correct term to use in response to a potential question like this. Of course i would qualify in this response that "approval" only pertains to design intent and not dimensional or other requirements covered by the contractor's prior approval.
please try not to bicker amongst yourselves in response to this posting. some of us have more important things to do with our time than wade through your personal attacks, like study for upcoming exams.
that said, thanks for your opinions
(opinions are like a**holes, everyone's got one)
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Posted: Sat Sep 20th, 2008 07:29 pm |
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I work in a large (800 person) architectural with lawyers on staff.
We are instructed to never approve, instead we take no exception.
There is a lengthy reason in law for this I don't want to get into.
Being members of the AIA large firm roundtable, we are working on revising the AIA documents to conform to this new standard, based on recent court rulings.
I may be ahead of the curve on this, but the panels member will understand if you take exception to the word Approved.
Last edited on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 07:35 pm by hapyhour
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