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IDP slightly confusing me, I live and work in California
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 Posted: Wed Apr 2nd, 2008 10:19 pm

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I currently work for a structural engineer and have done so for a little over two years. In recent months I have been considering entering an M.arch or B.arch program (I have a B.A. degree and two M.A. degrees already, none in architecture) and at this stage I am trying to figure out how to register my work experience with NCARB, if possible.

I have been looking over the rules to take the ARE in California and it seems clear to me that I can apply the time working for the Structural engineer at 50% per year, up to a maximum of two years. Then after that I need to accumulate a total of 8 years experience in order to take the California Supplemental exam (5 total for ARE + 3 for the CSE). But IDP and CIDP are both really confusing me.

I have been tracking Learning Units through my AIA transcripts for the last couple of years, but don't know if I can apply them to IDP before I enter my second year of the M.arch.  I also have all my time sheets with hours and projects I worked on and I have read if I submit a Form 123 to NCARB with my AIA trascripts they are transfered at .25 per hour.  My question is this: Can I open a $285 NCARB acount, report my AIA LU's with an official AIA transcript, report some of the items listed on the IDP checklist and have a licensed S.E. or P.E. sign it? Or will all this current work experience be discounted from IDP no matter what I do? 

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 Posted: Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 09:00 am

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Since CA doesn't require a degree, obviously your current experience counts.

What are your degrees in? You may be very close to qualifying for the ARE.

 

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They are in Cultural Resource Management (Archaeology), Public Administration (MPA) and Geography (Geographic Information Science). I have looked at NCARB's 96 unit requirement and I am also a little confused about how the technical unit requirement can be met. I attended a school that is not NAAB accredited and did not have an architecture program, but did have quite a few ABET accredited degree programs and courses.  Not that many 4 year school really offer architecture anyway and those that do have way too many applicants and students (its an impacted major). I guess thats why California is so liberal with its minimum requirements for ARE eligibility.

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Well, it looks like you currently have 2 years toward the 8. You need 3 more to qualify for the ARE.

As you know, you can only get one more year of credit under an SE, CE, LA, GC or BO. So if you stay with the SE for a total of 4 years, you'll have 3 years of credit.

If you get an accredited degree, the one year for school will convert to 5 which leaves you with 7. That's perfect since you must have a minimum of 1 year under an architect. Otherwise, you'll have to work 5 years for an architect.

I'm not familiar enough with IDP to know if you can get credit working for an SE.

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235 TU's under an Engineer.

Typically nothing counts until after the 3rd year of a Barch or the first year of an March.

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brudgers wrote: Typically nothing counts until after the 3rd year of a Barch or the first year of an March.Obviously that can't apply to California.

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 Posted: Thu Apr 10th, 2008 03:38 pm

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I should have quoted the part about not being familiar with NCARB requirements.

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NCARB has created an exemption for California canidates. After 3 years of education and/or work experience you can start IDP.

http://www.cab.ca.gov/idp_q_a.htm

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The link is dead.

Any other insight on IDP in California?

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 Posted: Thu Aug 21st, 2008 12:24 am

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http://www.cab.ca.gov/candidates/cidp_idp.shtml


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