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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 04:20 pm |
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| So if you've completed the IDP program...recieved the certification from NCARB...yadayada...have you graduated from Intern status ? Or, are candidates still technically interns?
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 05:01 pm |
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| you are an intern until you can legally call yourself an Architect. Sorry....but we have all been there.....
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 06:02 pm |
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MNA wrote: So if you've completed the IDP program...recieved the certification from NCARB...yadayada...have you graduated from Intern status ? Or, are candidates still technically interns? There is no techical answer. Call yourself whatever you want as long as it's not architect. Nobody has ever called me an intern.
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 06:06 pm |
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You might want to check with your state board if you're especially concerned about your title at this point.
It looks like you're in Texas. If so, they don't have a special designation for someone done with IDP, but they do allow "Architectural Intern" for all interns (some states don't allow that.)
Some other states have come up with their own designations that don't contain "intern" for people in this testing/transition phase. A few allow "intern architect" or "architect in training".
Last winter Illinois' board was discussing allowing "architect" or some title containing that word to be used by testing candidates - but I don't think that was ever resolved...
I see people who have completed IDP using titles on their resumes like "Exam-Ready Intern", "Architectural Registration Exam Candidate", etc.
One other point: the IDP completion letter you get from NCARB is not "certification". NCARB certification is a whole separate issue - you can't apply for that until after you're licensed in at least one state. You want to be careful about implying that you're NCARB certified, or using "NCARB" on your business card or resume or anything like that, unless you are actually certified, because NCARB has been known to sanction people who use this incorrectly - sometimes with suspension of testing provisions - though that's not likely to happen unless you were using it deliberately to make it appear that you are licensed...Last edited on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 08:49 pm by AbracaPocus
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 07:58 pm |
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There's only one title which matters.
It comes after you've passed all the tests.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 12:20 am |
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Abra...thank you for the thoughtful reply....my original question popped in my mind the other day when my wife asked me if I wanted to frame my IDP certificate. She was headed to the frame shop you see....I said sure explaining how it's been an eight year process to recieve the IDP certificate. I explained about how NCARB accredits the school you go to (5 yr. program)...you graduate...then you go through a mandatory 3 year internship governed by NCARB...then the NARCB certificate formally brings that whole journey to the point of sitting for your tests. Usually, this sort of ritualistic paper exchange happens at the conclusion of a training program or graduation...anyway, that's all. 
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 12:29 am |
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MNA wrote: I explained about how NCARB accredits the school you go to No they don't.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 12:40 am |
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| Sorry Coach...then it's NAAB? If your school doesn't pass this accreditation process... how does that effect students in the program? Can you graduate and still be on the IDP/licensure path?
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 12:47 am |
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MNA wrote: Sorry Coach...then it's NAAB? Yep If your school doesn't pass this accreditation process... how does that effect students in the program? They're screwed. But they should have known the risk going in. Can you graduate and still be on the IDP/licensure path? Depends on the state.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 01:48 am |
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Usually when a school first seeks accreditation the people who graduate in the 2 years preceding the granting of accreditation are retroactively deemed to have graduated from an NAAB program. So really the only danger is if the school doesn't get its initial accreditation on time, which pretty much never happens because NAAB conducts several visits over the 5 years prior to granting the school's first accreditation and tells the school exactly what they need to do to pass muster.
Schools that are already accredited get regular visits from NAAB - usually every 5 years, but can be as often as 2 or 3 years apart if there are identified problems. They will get a "probationary" accreditation if they aren't meeting all or most of the requirements, and will get a few years to make necessary changes. In the whole history of NAAB no school has been "unaccredited" involuntarily (though some have voluntarily given up their NAAB status of their program because for one reason or another they couldn't or didn't want to make the necessary changes to pass accreditation.)
As for IDP: that wall certificate you get when you finish IDP is the IDP certificate, not NCARB certification. The NCARB certificate is something you apply for (and pay for!) after you're licensed. Its main purpose is to satisfy some states' requirements for reciprocal licensing.Last edited on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 01:50 am by Nomadica
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 03:43 am |
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Thanks for the thoughtful response. I remember our faculty relentlessly preparing for the arrival of the review board. Quite a show.
Yes...sorry about the wrong language of "...recieved the certification from NCARB". I simply meant the certificate I got in the mail says "IDP" followed directly by the words "National Council of Architectural Registration Boards". Don' get me wrong, I was thankful for it. At last, it meant I wasn't gonna need to contact them or worry about IDP again. (Priceless!  )
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Posted: Sat Jul 26th, 2008 02:32 am |
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Nomadica,
Very precise, concise and correct answer.
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