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 Posted: Fri Nov 14th, 2008 10:22 am

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I have just started the program and come to the program with 5 years of experience.  Am I able to log or submit all 5 years of back-logged hours at once? 

If so, can anyone help me with a "guestimation" of how long they feel it will take NCARB to approve all the hours.

You input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

 

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 Posted: Fri Nov 14th, 2008 02:12 pm

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Yes, for the time being you can submit all your back experience at once.

But there is a new rule being instituted this year and phased in until 2010 that requires that you wait no more than 6 months to report experience - once it's more than 6 months old it will be disqualified. So you should submit all that experience NOW. If you don't start your council record before July 1, 2009 you won't be able to count most of your experience at all.

http://www.ncarb.org/idp/SixMonRul.html


It usually takes 2 to 4 months, though sometimes up to 6 months, for your record to be evaluated each time you send anything to NCARB. Then you'll either get a letter that you're finished with IDP, or you'll get a letter stating that you're not finished (for any number of reasons), or occasionally they'll ask for more information. If you need to send in anything additional then you can expect another 2 to 6 month wait. If the wait has exceeded 4 months or so then you should call NCARB, get the name of the person with whom you're speaking, ask for the name of the person handling your file, call that person, etc. You have to keep on them to finish things.
Once you're notified that you're done with IDP you can request transmittal of your record to your state, which takes another 30 to 45 business days (5 to 7 weeks).

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 Posted: Fri Nov 14th, 2008 05:07 pm

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Why are you people putting this off for so long?  It certainly lets others know something about that mentorship we are supposed to be under.

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 Posted: Sat Nov 15th, 2008 07:11 am

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thank you bettermousetrap....your response is very helpful

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 Posted: Thu Nov 20th, 2008 05:52 pm

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And keep in mind that as of now before the 6 month rule kicks in, if you wait and submit everything at once and ask NCARB to transmit your record to the state within one year of the day your file was opened, they'll charge you an additional $570 Late Application Fee... or what it really is, a penalty for not following the rules and not submitting regularly for the duration of your internship.

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 Posted: Sat Jan 3rd, 2009 01:40 am

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Boy,  I'd love to talk to an attorney about all this...

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 Posted: Sat Jan 3rd, 2009 04:37 am

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halochrome wrote: Boy,  I'd love to talk to an attorney about all this...

Save your money.

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I was speaking with someone who works at medical school admissions and has to deal with doctor licenses and has seen a few lawsuits filed and won because the licensing body did not perform its duty in a timely fashion.   it seems if a few people got together there would be a good case.

If a licensing body is going to impose a deadline it should be a post mark, not ... "Hey! we were out for the holidays and we misplaced your mail and then it ended up in the bottom of the pile" 

If they're going to have IDP and charge ridiculous "late" fees for submitting "early", they should have the staff to deal with people promptly.

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halochrome wrote: I was speaking with someone who works at medical school admissions and has to deal with doctor licenses and has seen a few lawsuits filed and won because the licensing body did not perform its duty in a timely fashion.   it seems if a few people got together there would be a good case.

If a licensing body is going to impose a deadline it should be a post mark, not ... "Hey! we were out for the holidays and we misplaced your mail and then it ended up in the bottom of the pile" 

If they're going to have IDP and charge ridiculous "late" fees for submitting "early", they should have the staff to deal with people promptly.


There really wouldnt be any case bc NCARB doesnt charge "late fees." When you submit is up to you and once you do, there are no specific time obligations for anything to happen as far as money is involved. The "Late Application Fee" really is just an administrative penalty for you not following the rules and waiting to submit everything to them all at once instead of periodically like you are supposed to. It has no bearing on how long it takes them to process the info (they claim it doesnt take them any longer than than usual) it is specifically to penalize you for trying to circumvent the process designed to be the standard for all 54 licensing jurisdictions in the US and its territories.

But with the new 6 month rule kicking in later this year, the Late Application Fee will go away completely since it will be impossible under the new rules to submit more than the last 6 months worth of experience for credit at any one time.

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 Posted: Tue Jan 6th, 2009 07:17 pm

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Are you still charged the Late Application Fee if you started your record (submitted your application) after school but did not verify employment and record units until 3 years later?

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Phuong7780 wrote: Are you still charged the Late Application Fee if you started your record (submitted your application) after school but did not verify employment and record units until 3 years later?

In my experience no.

But they're changing the reporting mechanism in July so that this won't be an option...at least in regards to certification.

It's not clear how the new reporting deadlines will impact individual states.


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