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Posted: Sat Jul 26th, 2008 06:48 pm |
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| Which is the easiest State to get Licenced in?
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Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 12:05 am |
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Define easy.
Everyone must pass the ARE.
Some states make it easier to take.
Some states do not requires a degree.
I believe all states now require IDP.
http://www.ncarb.org/stateboards/index.html
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Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 12:19 am |
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Actually in some states, under some rare circumstances, it is not a necessity to pass the ARE. NY for example has a route to initial licensure that does not require the ARE - but this is generally only for people who have been licensed in another state prior to the requirement for the ARE, or in another country for many years, and have a substantial body of work to show...
Other factors that could be part of "easy" are:
How long it takes the state to process license applications once all requirements are complete (can be a few days in some states, several months in others),
How much it costs for application and annual dues (application fees range from $0 in some states to hundreds in others, dues range from under $100 to several hundred per year),
Whether the state requires portfolios, interviews, references from some/all applicants,
Whether the state has any additional state-specific exam or other requirements (CA has the supplemental oral exam for everyone, WA has an oral exam for certain applicants, several other states have take-home or multiple choice exams on state statutes and code, and some states require submittal of a written summary of codes and statutes...)
Whether the state requires continuing ed credits for licensed applicants
Texas and Wisconsin come up frequently as "easy" states, though for different reasons.
Lots of considerations.
but the most important should usually be: where do you want to practice?Last edited on Sun Jul 27th, 2008 03:11 am by AbracaPocus
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Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 08:19 am |
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| If I get my license for one state, do I have to take all the exams again to get another license for the second state? Or there's any kind of procedure that would be easier?
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Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 01:29 pm |
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ARE-STUDIER wrote: If I get my license for one state, do I have to take all the exams again to get another license for the second state? Or there's any kind of procedure that would be easier?
I'll say in advance - please don't take offense, but...
Maybe it's just me and I'm a little confused. If you have already taken and passed 8 exams, I would hope you would know the answer to this question.  If you really don't know, you need to spend some time on NCARB's website.
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Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 09:24 pm |
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justdrawinglines wrote: Maybe it's just me and I'm a little confused. No, it's not just you. Amazing!
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Posted: Mon Jul 28th, 2008 01:28 pm |
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ARE-STUDIER wrote: If I get my license for one state, do I have to take all the exams again to get another license for the second state? Or there's any kind of procedure that would be easier?
WOW! Seriously?
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Posted: Mon Jul 28th, 2008 01:33 pm |
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It is a bit mind boggling, isn't it?
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| Jim, give me a cup.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28th, 2008 06:54 pm |
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DUELEONI wrote: Which is the easiest State to get Licenced in?
The easiest state to obtain licensure is the state in which you currently reside... transferring NCARB records is almost as painful as getting one's wisdom teeth pulled.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28th, 2008 07:03 pm |
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justdrawinglines wrote: ARE-STUDIER wrote: If I get my license for one state, do I have to take all the exams again to get another license for the second state? Or there's any kind of procedure that would be easier?
I'll say in advance - please don't take offense, but...
Maybe it's just me and I'm a little confused. If you have already taken and passed 8 exams, I would hope you would know the answer to this question. If you really don't know, you need to spend some time on NCARB's website.
I suppose if this were medieval Europe and we all lived in fiefdoms or city-states, the question would have more validity.
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 08:13 am |
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So, we need to just answer the question for this person. No arrogance allowed on the forum.
Most states require passing the IDP and ARE. There maybe some exceptions. You only have to do it once. Now there are several states that have other requirements on top of passing the ARE. California has its oral exam, Washington has some additional stuff (forgot what they were), Alaska has this Arctic Engineering Course to complete, those are the only ones I know, being from the Western part of the US. I am sure others on this forum can chime in on other state requirements.
In my case, I started my tests in Montana. They only require the IDP and ARE. So, when I complete the ARE, I will be licensed in Montana, paying all the fees of course. Then, I will complete the Arctic Engineering course at the University here in December and then I can apply for reciprocity. This means that the state of Alaska will accept my qualifications from Montana, I show completion of Arctic engineering course, and pay a butt load of money, again, then I can get my license in Alaska. As long as I pay annual fees in both states, and meet yearly requirements, I can be licensed in both states. You can be licensed in any number of states, as long as you pay your fees every year once licensed.
I hope that helped.
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 10:25 am |
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dottie wrote:
So, we need to just answer the question for this person. No arrogance allowed on the forum.
Most states require passing the IDP and ARE. There maybe some exceptions. You only have to do it once. Now there are several states that have other requirements on top of passing the ARE. California has its oral exam, Washington has some additional stuff (forgot what they were), Alaska has this Arctic Engineering Course to complete, those are the only ones I know, being from the Western part of the US. I am sure others on this forum can chime in on other state requirements.
In my case, I started my tests in Montana. They only require the IDP and ARE. So, when I complete the ARE, I will be licensed in Montana, paying all the fees of course. Then, I will complete the Arctic Engineering course at the University here in December and then I can apply for reciprocity. This means that the state of Alaska will accept my qualifications from Montana, I show completion of Arctic engineering course, and pay a butt load of money, again, then I can get my license in Alaska. As long as I pay annual fees in both states, and meet yearly requirements, I can be licensed in both states. You can be licensed in any number of states, as long as you pay your fees every year once licensed.
I hope that helped.
So, back to the original question, what is the easiest state to obtain licensure?  Assuming the OP has not obtained initial license, and has already started an NCARB file, I reiterate it's the state in which s/he currently resides. Most states and NCARB are not equipped to seamlessly process file transfers, especially if they learn the candidate's relocation motive is to find the "easiest" state!Last edited on Tue Jul 29th, 2008 02:47 pm by jmcarr
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 02:03 pm |
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Dottie - I don't think anyone is being arrogant, rather I think some of us are simply puzzled at how one could get that far into the muck and mire of the ARE and not know that you only have to take the basic 9 once...
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 02:14 pm |
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And Dottie, please do not interpret this as arrogance. But, I was still puzzling over the "easiest" state question well before the question came in on repeating all nine exams for license in each state.
In a twisted way, it might be a good thing to make Architects repeat all nine exams for each state. I doubt most "seasoned" professionals could hack it!
Jonathan
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 02:21 pm |
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It depends on the specifics of each person and the state(s) involved. There are in fact certain situations in which somebody may have to retest, though they're very uncommon.
There are also some situations in which the "easiest" route to licensure is to first get licensed in a state other than the one where you live and work - but again the reasons for this are person-specific, having to do with the educational and experience background of the person applying, and the specific requirements for initial registration and reciprocity (or endorsement or comity or whatever) in the state(s) in question.
Dottie in your situation: Alaska doesn't grant reciprocity - only "comity", which is on a case by case basis. To apply for comity an NCARB certificate is required, so the instant that you get your license in Montana you should start you NCARB certification application, as there's typically a 6+ month wait for NCARB certification. There are also more fees associated with certification, including annual dues to NCARB ($195) and in some cases an application fee (it is waived if you finished IDP and the ARE recently and never let your NCARB council dues lapse before you got licensed), and there is a $300 fee each time you have your record transmitted to a state.Last edited on Tue Jul 29th, 2008 03:39 pm by AbracaPocus
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 02:43 pm |
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AbracaPocus wrote: It depends on the specifics of each person and the state(s) involved. There are in fact certain situations in which somebody may have to retest, though they're very uncommon.
There are also some situations in which the "easiest" route to licensure is to first get licensed in a state other than the one where you live and work - but again the reasons for this are person-specific, having to do with the educational and experience background of the person applying, and the specific requirements for initial registration and reciprocity (or endorsement or comity or whatever) in the state(s) in question.
Your response is much better than my usual, tongue-in-cheek drivel. 
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 03:45 pm |
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Comity, yes, that was the exact word on the application. Which, in my ignorance, I had to look up. Anyways, pretty much the same thing.
Yea, the NCARB thing. If I pass all the tests, I should know by September, my intent is to get the process going then. And, as previously stated, pay a butt load of money.
Even dispite the ha-ha, thank you for all the answers. A little more informative. I would also be curious as to why ARE-Studier wanted to know the easiest state to get licensed in?
Thanks all.
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Posted: Tue Jul 29th, 2008 04:19 pm |
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You guys say NCARB comity, I say NCARB comedy. [wow, that's bad]
Regarding the easiest state question, if there was such a state, myself and others probably would have discovered it already.
Dottie, best of luck finishing the hold-outs! Knock 'em out of the ballpark!
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Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 11:13 pm |
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Anyway to get liscenced without taking the exams??
Just a question
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| There are a few states with certain routes to licensing that do not require taking the ARE in some rare circumstances, but generally those routes are only open to people who have already been licensed for some number of years (10-20 depending on state) in another country or were licensed in another state at a point in time before the ARE was required in that original state AND have a large body of professional work to show.
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| Any tips on how to fight stess while studying, or what vitamins to take?
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DUELEONI wrote: Any tips on how to fight stess while studying, or what vitamins to take?
Make sure to set aside time for something that is fun for you. For example, I have deliberately carved out Sat. mornings to ride my bicycle with our local club. It's a fun group of people and very nice to have some time to put aside the books.
Since you asked about vitamins, I'll make a slightly different recommendation: stress easing tea. The brand/tea blend I like is Traditional Medicinals' "Easy Now". It has chamomile, lavender, peppermint, spearmint and others herbs that are good for relaxing. It also has stevia leaf which is naturally sweet, so you don't need to add sugar. You could probably just drink chamomile, but I like this blend.
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 02:53 pm |
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DUELEONI wrote: Any tips on how to fight stess while studying, or what vitamins to take?
Just take a good daily multi-vitamin. Trader Joes has decent vitamins at a reasonable cost. Since stress is a given with concurrently working and studying, a good multi will help support your immune system. And, exams aside, it's generally a good habit to take a daily multi-vitamin, according to my doctor.
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If all else fails, tequila helps... 
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| Where an I find free study material??
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| Where can I find free study material??
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This site is full of "free" study material and advice, take advantage of the FTP site on here and yes you might have to shell out some $$ to get some study material, however there is a forum on here dedicated to people selling their used study materials and other things.
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DUELEONI wrote: Where an I find free study material?? You must become an expert at searching the web. Many (including me) have shared their finds. I have found copyrighted material as well but I don't xhare those links for obvious reasons. Wiley has a nice student site for the MEEB with summaries and practice quizes. Who needs the book when you have that? There are some great web resources for structures and materials. Then there's always the library. Try your office too.
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Coach wrote: Wiley has a nice student site for the MEEB with summaries and practice quizes. Who needs the book when you have that? Where is that?
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