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StitzelJ
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Posted: Thu Nov 6th, 2008 05:51 pm |
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Just wondering if your office pays your full AIA dues, or some part. I just got my invoice from the AIA for my first full year as a licenced member and woo... that's a lot of dough.
Should I approach my office to se eif they'll contribute? We've downsized a bit, and I feel sort of guilty even asking them to contribute, but at the same time, they like that I'm active in the AIA...
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brudgers
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Posted: Thu Nov 6th, 2008 06:00 pm |
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In a reasonable sized office there's probably an established policy regarding dues, so ask.
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Coach
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Posted: Thu Nov 6th, 2008 07:25 pm |
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IMO, since the AIA requires all licensees in the employ of a member principal to be members, then it should be the firms responsibility. They knew this requirement when they joined.
Don't feel guilty.
On the other hand, if you aren't with a member firm, that's different. You have the option.
Don't feel guilty anyway.
Employers should pay for all professional memberships. It's a basic cost of doing business.
Look. We've consistently let this profession get discounted and for every dollar that architects' value is reduced, our employees go down at least two.
The least you can do is fight for the incidentals.
The way it's going, pay toilets will be making a renaissance.
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Nanner
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Posted: Thu Nov 6th, 2008 08:47 pm |
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I've been paying my AIA dues out of pocket since I've been licensed. I work for a really small firm that until last year was an AIA firm.
I don't think I'll renew next year because it's a hefty price for me (National + local = ~$800). If my boss renews the firm's AIA membership, I might ask him to pay half of my dues...
At the larger firm I used to work for, I think they paid AIA dues for associates and up. No harm asking - maybe start by asking your AIA coworkers if the office pays their dues.
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PGH-STEELERS
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Posted: Fri Nov 7th, 2008 12:40 am |
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| Firms typically pay them unless you work for really really small firm.
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golfernut78
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Posted: Fri Nov 7th, 2008 05:23 am |
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| my boss pays for them. he says clients feel more "comfortable" when they see "AIA" behind your name. i do however take advantage of some of the benefits with discounts on ups, hertz, and dell.
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CA Girl
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Posted: Fri Nov 7th, 2008 08:59 pm |
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| My office pays for the dues. They had me fill out the paperwork as soon as I got my license.
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JChapinCP
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Posted: Sat Nov 8th, 2008 01:42 am |
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My office only pays for the dues of the associates and principals. The rest of the staff is on there own. Its because of this reason (among others) that many of us have not joined the AIA or the Assoc AIA.
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wograr
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Posted: Sat Nov 8th, 2008 04:10 am |
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My employer pays AIA dues and annual license fee.
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stl-guy
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Posted: Sat Nov 8th, 2008 05:44 am |
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JChapinCP wrote: My office only pays for the dues of the associates and principals. The rest of the staff is on there own. Its because of this reason (among others) that many of us have not joined the AIA or the Assoc AIA
There is some disconnect between the bean counters for my company, HR, and principals who make company policy.
I'm told by my boss that the company endorses and will pay all my membership dues and licence fees.
The bean counters at my firm understandably have a slightly different viewpoint.
We need to get this situation clarified.
Meanwhile, I expensed half to my company. The other half I will write off as it is a direct tax deductible expense.
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piARnoy
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Posted: Sat Nov 8th, 2008 11:27 am |
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| our office only pays if you are an Associate, Senior Ass. , or Principal otherwise you're just ......RA
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Sika
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Posted: Sun Nov 9th, 2008 07:42 pm |
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Nanner wrote: I've been paying my AIA dues out of pocket since I've been licensed. I work for a really small firm that until last year was an AIA firm.
I don't think I'll renew next year because it's a hefty price for me (National + local = ~$800). If my boss renews the firm's AIA membership, I might ask him to pay half of my dues...
At the larger firm I used to work for, I think they paid AIA dues for associates and up. No harm asking - maybe start by asking your AIA coworkers if the office pays their dues.
Wow, $800! I thought Vegas was expensive (about $650 here).
Our company pays half for any one professional organization you want to join, but will only pay for your licensing fees if you are a principal.
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dawnatello
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Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2008 07:46 am |
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Sika wrote: Nanner wrote: I don't think I'll renew next year because it's a hefty price for me (National + local = ~$800). If my boss renews the firm's AIA membership, I might ask him to pay half of my dues... Wow, $800! I thought Vegas was expensive (about $650 here).
Geezuz - has anyone ever suggest to AIA to offer different membership packages??? I mean seriously, we are not techies, plumbers have higher hourly than half of us, so what gives?
And I HATE this AIA thing after you get licensed. I mean why use some affliation as your title? Engineers uses P.E., not SEAONC, or ASCE. It's much more unified. I've seen RA, NCARB, etc. I'm totally going for RA when I get these dang exams out of the way.
Back to the posting here, I personally pay for all my licensure, memberships, etc. because I want to own what I earn. And I believe you should consider it if you can afford it - you worked hard for it, make it yours and not subsidized by someone else.
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Sika
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Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2008 03:22 pm |
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dawnatello wrote: Geezuz - has anyone ever suggest to AIA to offer different membership packages??? I mean seriously, we are not techies, plumbers have higher hourly than half of us, so what gives?
And I HATE this AIA thing after you get licensed. I mean why use some affliation as your title? Engineers uses P.E., not SEAONC, or ASCE. It's much more unified. I've seen RA, NCARB, etc. I'm totally going for RA when I get these dang exams out of the way.
Back to the posting here, I personally pay for all my licensure, memberships, etc. because I want to own what I earn. And I believe you should consider it if you can afford it - you worked hard for it, make it yours and not subsidized by someone else.
I understand your point about owning your licensure. But look at it this way, your company benefits from how many licensed architects or LEED APs or AIA members it employs, even if only from a marketing standpoint. If they are willing to pay a portion of it, and you want to be included in it, I see no problem. As an industry, we are already underpaid. Why be used for marketing purposes & not reap some of the benefit, even if it is just a small one?
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Posted: Mon Nov 10th, 2008 05:24 pm |
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dawnatello wrote: I've seen RA, NCARB, etc. How is NCARB any different? Do you know who knows what NCARB means? Your buddies in the office. I'm totally going for RA when I get these dang exams out of the way. In California? California doesn't register architects. You're licensed. What's wrong with Jane Doe, Architect?
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ShudBDrwg
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 02:38 pm |
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| My office pays for the professional dues once you're with the firm for 5 years. Last edited on Tue Nov 11th, 2008 02:39 pm by ShudBDrwg
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Nanner
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Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 03:23 pm |
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I would love to be able to choose a membership package. My local AIA chapter has justified its high fees by touting all the work they do, all the committees they manage, the free pizza and beer at all the committee meetings they host, etc...
I think they are doing a good job, but for those of us who don't live or work near the Big City, and who can't really take the time to go to all these committee meetings and receive our free pizza and beer, but can't be an AIA member without paying the exhorbitant local dues - it isn't worth it.
I wish it wasn't so "either-or". I would renew my AIA membership if it was an option only to pay national dues, and opt out of local dues.
Nonmembers can go to these committee meetings and events and receive the free CEU's, pizza and beer too.
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