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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 01:56 am |
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i did pass!
Exam was July 10th. Worst exam expirence ever!
My husband dropped me off, the location in under renovation, and has been relocated------a mile away. The janitor point to a building in the distance, and tells me run over there!
I run over to the said building in the distance, arrive –limping. So much for the moments of mediation I did in the car to calm down.
I get into the exam:
1. Calculator was terrible, I was so nervous that I could not even really use it- so you don’t need it. Thaddeus said you don’t need the calculator, and you don’t- think about the reaction.
2. Know your basic steel manual pages, how to read the charts. So many answers depend on you understanding that information. Use the reference.
3. BASICS. Compression, tension, shear, neutral axis—where & how do they take place.
4. Materials
5. Trig stuff, but so easy that you need to just look for the answer.
6. I suggest the practice tests on FAQ, you will not face anything that difficult- but it helps.
7.Thaddeus cheat sheet is a good mantra, but you need to understand how it works.
8.Every question that I was unsure about the answer- I marked. At the end I had marked 37 questions, and I had an hour to review those. By the time I was done with that review, I had about 5 that i answered with less-than sure selection.
I studied for 8 weeks- everyday for 4 hours, and at least 16hours on the weekend. I had no life this summer, cried often, and suffered much. This was my second try, I have been out of school for 15 years, and I have never been a good test taker. I am a partner in a firm, have a family, and many obligations.
Never give-up, just get it over.
6 down 3 to go.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 02:07 am |
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awh...good for you!! congratulations!!
That was hard work. Wow..walked a mile to the the relocated center before test time huh..that's not fun at all.
Speaking of no life, I know what you mean. I've been wanting to go out so bad, but I couldn't cuz of these test...
keep it up, 3 left, no biggy.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 04:17 am |
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You go Girl!!!! You are an inspiration. I have taken two tests and did not pass neither of them. I am also a mom and very busy at work in my Division. But from what information you have shared, I am not studying enough. So I need to get busy. Thank you for the post!! Last edited on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 04:18 am by Jenn Pooh
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 01:51 pm |
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Congratulations! That's a true triumph story. Good point about the calculator - usually you can visualize the right answer and verify with math.
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mrdcon
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 05:22 pm |
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aldo wrote: i did pass!
Exam was July 10th. Worst exam expirence ever!
My husband dropped me off, the location in under renovation, and has been relocated------a mile away. The janitor point to a building in the distance, and tells me run over there!
I run over to the said building in the distance, arrive –limping. So much for the moments of mediation I did in the car to calm down.
I get into the exam:
1. Calculator was terrible, I was so nervous that I could not even really use it- so you don’t need it. Thaddeus said you don’t need the calculator, and you don’t- think about the reaction.
2. Know your basic steel manual pages, how to read the charts. So many answers depend on you understanding that information. Use the reference.
3. BASICS. Compression, tension, shear, neutral axis—where & how do they take place.
4. Materials
5. Trig stuff, but so easy that you need to just look for the answer.
6. I suggest the practice tests on FAQ, you will not face anything that difficult- but it helps.
7.Thaddeus cheat sheet is a good mantra, but you need to understand how it works.
8.Every question that I was unsure about the answer- I marked. At the end I had marked 37 questions, and I had an hour to review those. By the time I was done with that review, I had about 5 that i answered with less-than sure selection.
I studied for 8 weeks- everyday for 4 hours, and at least 16hours on the weekend. I had no life this summer, cried often, and suffered much. This was my second try, I have been out of school for 15 years, and I have never been a good test taker. I am a partner in a firm, have a family, and many obligations.
Never give-up, just get it over.
6 down 3 to go.
Great story of persistence, determination and hard work.... it does pay off!
I too, have been studying for about the same amount of time. I've been out of school for 11 years, I'm 55 years old, married 35 years, one daughter through college and another just starting 6th grade..... and have been a partner in my firm for the last 8 years and just like you, I've been struggling just to find time to study to past this thing. An additional wrinkle is that I have already went through one 5 year rolling clock with 5 parts passed only to have to start all over again.
I test this Monday the 28th and plan on locking myself in a room all weekend to review what I have been studying for the last eight weeks. I'm terrified about the calculations because I just can't seem to grasp the whole reactions and moments about a point thing. Whe I have unlimited time to work on those kinds of calculations, I can solve them, but not under the pressure of time.
You mentioned the steel pages. I haven't heard many people talk about much steel on their exams and Thaddeus rated it #4 out of 5 as far as importance on the exam. Can you elborate on the steel issue?
You mentioned practices test on the FAQ? Do you mean the FTP site?
Good luck on the rest of your exams!
Last edited on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 05:23 pm by mrdcon
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 11:40 pm |
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mrdcon wrote:
I test this Monday the 28th and plan on locking myself in a room all weekend to review what I have been studying for the last eight weeks. I'm terrified about the calculations because I just can't seem to grasp the whole reactions and moments about a point thing. Whe I have unlimited time to work on those kinds of calculations, I can solve them, but not under the pressure of time.
You mentioned the steel pages. I haven't heard many people talk about much steel on their exams and Thaddeus rated it #4 out of 5 as far as importance on the exam. Can you elborate on the steel issue?
You mentioned practices test on the FAQ? Do you mean the FTP site?
Good luck on the rest of your exams!
The "steel pages" familiarizes you with shear and moment diagrams of different loading conditions of beams, it's important to have an understanding of how they are being generated so that you when asked you can identify these conditions. Not to worry, the pages are also in the reference section of the exam, straight out of the steel manual.
Q and A practice problems from Kaplan is a must have (not available on ftp), the problems are generally more complex than the exam (good practice).
I just found out that I pass GS today!!! Many thanks to the posts on this forum and David T's seminar and Marty's notes.
Good luck on your exams...
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mrdcon
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 11:55 pm |
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Congrats btb!
As I type this, I'm working my way through the 292 questions from Kaplan's book of Q&A. I sure hope the math questions are easier than what I'm struggling through in this book.
I feel pretty confident in the concepts, formulas and how they work and the general knowledge base.... it's just some of these reaction and moments about a point problems that confuse me..... so I'm hoping there aren't too many difficult reaction problems to deal with.
Thanks for the supportive email ....
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mrdcon
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Posted: Sat Jul 26th, 2008 12:00 am |
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| BTW .... has anybody had the HANDRAIL problem in their exam?
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Posted: Sat Jul 26th, 2008 12:31 am |
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mrdcon,
If it require too many steps and complex calculation, it will most likely not be on the exam. Do you have Marty's note of Thaddeus seminar? It contain many short cuts to solve for reaction and moments, graphically and porportionally, great stuff (Marty deserve props for transcribing notes).
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Posted: Sat Jul 26th, 2008 06:53 am |
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Yes I had a handrail calc.....
but that one was simple as it was one of the questions that was logical -(really):
There were all the pieces that are necessary, there was a force = (point load) and a distance given ! Wow...
Unlike some questions where I only afterwards remembered that steel has a typical value depending on the shape. Hence I could have had an answer. Some calculations appeared almost too simple, which can then get difficult under stress.
I remembered so many questions that I knew I got wrong- but I still got my pass.
I had even managed to mess up a couple of easy questions. It is actually soooo irritating not to know what the supposedly correct anwers would have been.
I am sure you already have your gameplan:
Get to know the calculator during the tutorial - test the scientific button, note where the SQRT (square root) would be (I did not need that though).
Definitly leave all calculations to the end, leave them empty (!) yes, so you can also mark the ones you would want to go back to without having to search for the guessed calculations.
It really will help to have as much as possible relaxed time for the txt and diagram questions.
(= where is max. moment or deflection of this beam etc.)
be prepared for such questions even on continuous beams, arches and rigid frames, though it seems as I mentioend before one can really miss a few answers and still pass.
Know not to mistake a flat slab for a flat plate (those 2 seem the same once in the test) as some questions ask by describing a system in lieu of providing a diagram.
Know which and all types of loads that account for life and what for deadload and which then deflection max is allowable
Kaplan - all chapters except for wind and earthquake are needed.
There were a few questions that one would consider lateral questions,
though they were the type of question, one cannot study for.
Good luck.Last edited on Sat Jul 26th, 2008 07:13 am by Rumpelstielzchen
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mrdcon
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Posted: Sat Jul 26th, 2008 11:31 am |
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btb wrote: mrdcon,
If it require too many steps and complex calculation, it will most likely not be on the exam. Do you have Marty's note of Thaddeus seminar? It contain many short cuts to solve for reaction and moments, graphically and porportionally, great stuff (Marty deserve props for transcribing notes).
Yes, I have Marty's notes and will go back and review them for reactions and moments. Yeah, not only are Marty's notes consise but they're beautiful! .... 
Thanks btb! I'll send some mana your way!
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mrdcon
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Posted: Sat Jul 26th, 2008 11:37 am |
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Rumpelstielzchen wrote: Yes I had a handrail calc.....
but that one was simple as it was one of the questions that was logical -(really):
There were all the pieces that are necessary, there was a force = (point load) and a distance given ! Wow...
Unlike some questions where I only afterwards remembered that steel has a typical value depending on the shape. Hence I could have had an answer. Some calculations appeared almost too simple, which can then get difficult under stress.
I remembered so many questions that I knew I got wrong- but I still got my pass.
I had even managed to mess up a couple of easy questions. It is actually soooo irritating not to know what the supposedly correct anwers would have been.
I am sure you already have your gameplan:
Get to know the calculator during the tutorial - test the scientific button, note where the SQRT (square root) would be (I did not need that though).
Definitly leave all calculations to the end, leave them empty (!) yes, so you can also mark the ones you would want to go back to without having to search for the guessed calculations.
It really will help to have as much as possible relaxed time for the txt and diagram questions.
(= where is max. moment or deflection of this beam etc.)
be prepared for such questions even on continuous beams, arches and rigid frames, though it seems as I mentioend before one can really miss a few answers and still pass.
Know not to mistake a flat slab for a flat plate (those 2 seem the same once in the test) as some questions ask by describing a system in lieu of providing a diagram.
Know which and all types of loads that account for life and what for deadload and which then deflection max is allowable
Kaplan - all chapters except for wind and earthquake are needed.
There were a few questions that one would consider lateral questions,
though they were the type of question, one cannot study for.
Good luck.
Rumpelstielzchen... thanks a lot. Your post is extremely helpful as I wind up this weekend of study for my Monday exam. It's fellow candidates like yourself that are willing to share their exam experiences and knowledge that make this forum so instrumental in helping candidates pass the exam. Mana to you, my friend! ...
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Posted: Sat Jul 26th, 2008 08:41 pm |
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I GUESS people read these posts.
The reference section provides information about steel, however if you are not familiar - you will spend all your time looking at that data.
the steel manual is a referenced book for the exam, so I believe understanding those pages -that are consistently used in the Kaplan books will help.
Understanding the relationship between max.moment& zero shear, and comparing how different beam conditions effect that relationship- is a principal concept.
The first time I took the exam, I studied those hard ass questions like a crazy-lady. And was crying afterwards because the exam had so many easy questions that confused me---. I know that sound strange, but just because the mouse is small the elephant freaks out! These are mice questions, think mouse-not elephant. Ask your self what is shear, what is a moment, what do they do-where. Read the definitions, do you know what they mean?
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Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 07:27 pm |
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Way to go. Congratulations. I'll be taking GS again this fall after I take M&M. I've also been out of school for 13 years and have a preschooler at home. I also will not give up and am so looking forward to getting it over with!
Mrdcon - Hoping for a pass for you too!
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Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 07:31 pm |
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numlock wrote: Way to go. Congratulations. I'll be taking GS again this fall after I take M&M. I've also been out of school for 13 years and have a preschooler at home. I also will not give up and am so looking forward to getting it over with!
Mrdcon - Hoping for a pass for you too!
Thanks numlock! I see that you've passed LF..... any advice, thoughts or suggestions. I take LF on August 16th.
Good luck on M&M and GS to you as well.
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Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 07:54 pm |
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I found the FEMA documents very useful and well explained. The documents have diagrams and pictures of circumstances that are helpful. Also know your glazing types. I downloaded misc. pieces of information that people posted that often explained concepts clearer than ballast or kaplan. I didn't study working through the equations so much, but did grasp the concepts behind what made up each portion of the equations. The material to study is so much more defined than with GS. I felt LF was leaps and bounds more staight forward than GS. If you felt you did well with GS, then you'll tackle LF with no problem. Good luck.
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Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 07:58 pm |
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numlock wrote: I found the FEMA documents very useful and well explained. The documents have diagrams and pictures of circumstances that are helpful. Also know your glazing types. I downloaded misc. pieces of information that people posted that often explained concepts clearer than ballast or kaplan. I didn't study working through the equations so much, but did grasp the concepts behind what made up each portion of the equations. The material to study is so much more defined than with GS. I felt LF was leaps and bounds more staight forward than GS. If you felt you did well with GS, then you'll tackle LF with no problem. Good luck.
awesome...thanks!
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mrdcon wrote: numlock wrote: I found the FEMA documents very useful and well explained. The documents have diagrams and pictures of circumstances that are helpful. Also know your glazing types. I downloaded misc. pieces of information that people posted that often explained concepts clearer than ballast or kaplan. I didn't study working through the equations so much, but did grasp the concepts behind what made up each portion of the equations. The material to study is so much more defined than with GS. I felt LF was leaps and bounds more staight forward than GS. If you felt you did well with GS, then you'll tackle LF with no problem. Good luck.
awesome...thanks!
Along with Fema docs, Ballast, Kaplan, I found that The Arch. Studio Companion and Marty's notes is helpful in hammering home the systems (Rigid/Moment frame, Braced frame, Shear wall) use to counteract the forces you're being tested on. What help me the most are conversations with structural engineers to help me visualize how these forces are transferred and how geometry and redundancy play a big part in the solution. Funny I was meeting with my structural consultant/friend while riding a 5.4 not too long...
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btb wrote: mrdcon wrote: numlock wrote: I found the FEMA documents very useful and well explained. The documents have diagrams and pictures of circumstances that are helpful. Also know your glazing types. I downloaded misc. pieces of information that people posted that often explained concepts clearer than ballast or kaplan. I didn't study working through the equations so much, but did grasp the concepts behind what made up each portion of the equations. The material to study is so much more defined than with GS. I felt LF was leaps and bounds more staight forward than GS. If you felt you did well with GS, then you'll tackle LF with no problem. Good luck.
awesome...thanks!
Along with Fema docs, Ballast, Kaplan, I found that The Arch. Studio Companion and Marty's notes is helpful in hammering home the systems (Rigid/Moment frame, Braced frame, Shear wall) use to counteract the forces you're being tested on. What help me the most are conversations with structural engineers to help me visualize how these forces are transferred and how geometry and redundancy play a big part in the solution. Funny I was meeting with my structural consultant/friend while riding a 5.4 not too long...
Whoa! Nothing like the real thing! Thanks for the additional suggestions.
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thanks Aldo member. that's very encouraging.
I've been pretty dissapointed with my performance in GS and LF but I guess I haven't studied enough time to give me better chances.
Anyway, congrats and I hope I can say the same in the near future.
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I took this test on Monday. I feel now that my biggest mistake was concentrating too heavily on the math. Many of my questions were more Materials&Methods related, and even more so they were incredibly specific, not general concepts. The only equations I needed to know were:
F=P/A
M=WL/8 (uniform load)
S=M/Fb
But I have heard others needing to know a lot more math, so don't rule out other equations.
I suffered with the on-screen calculator too. I may have been too nervous but i couldn't find the square root function anywhere. so there went my chance to solve any trig. I only got one triangle question.
There are tons of reference sheet tabs. They give you lots of information, and its good information. I think the relevancy of it though depends on the exam questions you randomly get.
A word of advice, don't need to spend a lot of time trying to memorize shear and moment loading diagrams for specific loads, just understand the concepts...uniform load has sloping shear and curving moment...and know that you must add different types of loads to derive total loads. I think i used M=WL/8 for moment of a uniform load about 8-10 times on this exam.
It is extremely important to be able to analyze what type of force is occurring at a given point.
I didn't get handrails, overturning moment, or anything like that which I had prepared for.
We shall see what reaps.
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mardog9381 wrote: I took this test on Monday. I feel now that my biggest mistake was concentrating too heavily on the math. Many of my questions were more Materials&Methods related, and even more so they were incredibly specific, not general concepts. The only equations I needed to know were:
F=P/A
M=WL/8 (uniform load)
S=M/Fb
But I have heard others needing to know a lot more math, so don't rule out other equations.
I suffered with the on-screen calculator too. I may have been too nervous but i couldn't find the square root function anywhere. so there went my chance to solve any trig. I only got one triangle question.
There are tons of reference sheet tabs. They give you lots of information, and its good information. I think the relevancy of it though depends on the exam questions you randomly get.
A word of advice, don't need to spend a lot of time trying to memorize shear and moment loading diagrams for specific loads, just understand the concepts...uniform load has sloping shear and curving moment...and know that you must add different types of loads to derive total loads. I think i used M=WL/8 for moment of a uniform load about 8-10 times on this exam.
It is extremely important to be able to analyze what type of force is occurring at a given point.
I didn't get handrails, overturning moment, or anything like that which I had prepared for.
We shall see what reaps.
Sounds like the exam that I had!
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Posted: Wed Aug 27th, 2008 03:01 pm |
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btb
I cannot determine whicha are Marty's notes on the FTP that you mentioned. They do not seem to be listed under his name. Are these them? (See link below)
http://www.areforum.org/guest/General%20Structures/AREseminar/AREseminar/seminar%20notes/Day%201.pdf.pdf
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K
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Posted: Wed Aug 27th, 2008 06:03 pm |
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Keystone wrote: btb
I cannot determine whicha are Marty's notes on the FTP that you mentioned. They do not seem to be listed under his name. Are these them? (See link below)
http://www.areforum.org/guest/General%20Structures/AREseminar/AREseminar/seminar%20notes/Day%201.pdf.pdf
Thanks,
K
Yes, you got it, a little suggestion (hate to contribute to more carbon emission), if you're to print them out, make sure they're in color. The colors helped tremendously in term of visualizing what's in "tension or compression, axial and perpendicular" etc...
Good luck!
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Posted: Thu Aug 28th, 2008 12:44 am |
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| Thanks for the assist
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 05:49 pm |
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| Congrats! Thamks for sharing the 15 years out of school and test taking not that cool. I am in the same boat and it has been helpful for you to share this. Gives me a big push...so thanks! 2 more for me.
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