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Quick report back- test 6/13/08 (friday the 13th!!!)
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cellar603
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Mana: 
 Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 06:15 pm

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Quick thoughts from the test.......

No check all that apply.  No fill in the blank. 

Most of the test was straightforward and not too heavily calculation based.  Speaking of calcs.  Prometric let me take in one of their calculators.....good thing, too.  I saw ZERO/ZILCH/ZIP calculator on the program.  I thought this was to have started by now (even though the switch is 7/1, I think).  I would have been really pi$$ed if I didn't have a calculator when the clock started.

Time was okay......finished with 20 mins to spare.  That was enough time to go back and rate questions on the ones I knew vs. the ones I was 50% on or had no clue.  Only marked 10 or so to go back and look at again.

Studied Kaplan, Archiflash cards, and glanced at the MEEB, Graphic Standards and Ching diagrams.  Two weeks real study time ~2 hours/day.

Questions that came out of left field to me: escalator type (there are types), image of a type of meter.....what does it measure?, creep (although I read about this somewhere else on the forum and forgot to look it up), cisterns, calculate the required area of a supply register taking into account the resistance caused by the grille, and a few others I can't remember.

Anyway, hope I won't have to study for this one again.......

With Crossed fingers,
cellar603 :D

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 Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 07:00 pm

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You didn't see a screen calc anywhere?:shock::shock: I take my exam at the end of the month and plan on bringing my own as well as the paperwork to show them I'm still allowed to use it. I was going to play with the exam calc so I could get used to it before I jump into GS and LF next.

I remember I accidentally opened the calc in my first graphics exam and it took me a while to figure out how to get rid of it.

Good luck with your results.:cool:

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 Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 07:41 pm

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Nope......no calculator anywhere.  Just the reference page. 

I think the "new rule" officially does state July 1.  All I know is that LF and GS are next for me, and if I can't have a calc... AND there is no onscreen calc..... I will not be happy!

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 Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 07:53 pm

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cellar603 wrote: Nope......no calculator anywhere.  Just the reference page. 

I think the "new rule" officially does state July 1.  All I know is that LF and GS are next for me, and if I can't have a calc... AND there is no onscreen calc..... I will not be happy!

That's why I was hoping to have a few minutes of play time at the end of ME to get a feel for the calc. Just like you, structures is next for me. I wonder if they will add one to the software after July 1, or will we be given a generic one by the nice folks behind the desk. Not having a calc for the structure exam would, IMO, violate the 8th Amendment of the Constitution.  :cool: 

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 Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 09:09 pm

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I am taking this exam soon (again!)...I know of two people who have recently taken the exam and the calculator did not appear on the screen.  Prometric (while apologetic)  would not give them a calculator, either, saying it was against the new policy.

If this happens, and they don't give you a calculator, just make sure to report it right away!!  ARE Operations has been pretty responsive with both incidents. 

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 Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 11:27 pm

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It happen to me just two weeks ago! No on screen calculator!

see my post.... http://www.areforum.org/forums/forum4/51106.html

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 Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 07:51 pm

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Cellar...any chance you can help us learn from your experience?

Escalator type (there are types),  Do you know of any websites where they would list the escalator types which would prepare us for the exam?...When I do a search, it is unclear what Im looking for....I think you would be able to help with that since you seen what the answer options were.

Image of a type of meter.....what does it measure? Did you end up looking this one up afterward....do you think we should focus on water/air/electric....anything would help.

Creep (although I read about this somewhere else on the forum and forgot to look it up), Ive also ran across these....but typically they involve the perimeter of windows/doors/openings of an entire room....was it this extensive, or was it mostly a definition?

Cisterns, Again, Just curious if this was calc, history or definition based...

Calculate the required area of a supply register taking into account the resistance caused by the grille, Hmm...Im guessing MEEB? Ive got to look. Did it give you the resistance and cfm to calculate, or is this something we are supposed to memorize resistance/cfm for each type of diffuser?

Thanks for any help you may offer.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 12:55 pm

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Libra-
Maybe I can help on a couple of these, but to be perfectly honest, once the test was over, I didn't look too far back, hence my "quick" notes. 

LibraLogic wrote:
Escalator type (there are types),  Do you know of any websites where they would list the escalator types which would prepare us for the exam?...When I do a search, it is unclear what Im looking for....I think you would be able to help with that since you seen what the answer options were.
I don't have any clue.  Given a plan and elev. of an escalator going though multiple floors, know what the name of the specific configuration is. 

Image of a type of meter.....what does it measure? Did you end up looking this one up afterward....do you think we should focus on water/air/electric....anything would help. 
Try to look up images of meters that measure electrical current, sound, and light. 

Creep (although I read about this somewhere else on the forum and forgot to look it up), Ive also ran across these....but typically they involve the perimeter of windows/doors/openings of an entire room....was it this extensive, or was it mostly a definition?
I recall the perimeter of windows/doors/etc. as being related to the crack method of calculating infiltration.  Still not sure about creep. (Haven't bothered to look it up though)

Cisterns, Again, Just curious if this was calc, history or definition based...
Know what one looks like.

Calculate the required area of a supply register taking into account the resistance caused by the grille, Hmm...Im guessing MEEB? Ive got to look. Did it give you the resistance and cfm to calculate, or is this something we are supposed to memorize resistance/cfm for each type of diffuser?
Understand how to calculate a grille size knowing the air cfm through the duct and the required cfm of the space. 

Thanks for any help you may offer. Hope this helps.:cool:

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 Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 12:58 pm

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Cellar, I do appreciate your time and feedback...thank you for this, and you have clarified many of my questions perfectly.

Thanks again...Logic

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 Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 08:21 pm

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Hiya,

Do you know where would be the best place to study the cfm calculations for ducts?

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 Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 08:30 pm

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And while we are of subject, Im starving for a Register Sizing calculation....anybody?

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 Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 09:27 pm

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Just my gut, but after thinking about it, my guess is that the register sizing question is one of the "maybe in the future" questions.  All the other formulas for any calc were on the reference page.  No equation was even close to looking correct for this question.  This was the only calc out of left field.
just my gut though......

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 Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 11:53 pm

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Ha...ok thanks Cellar. I suppose my search for that will end right there. Perhaps they are looking for more of an analytical approach....God only knows..

Again thank you for your valuable input, now I wont waste much time on that.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 05:01 pm

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Thanks:)


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