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sissyjen
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 06:07 pm |
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Can someone explain to me why the answer to the below question is water closet given the choices below?
This is a question from the ARE 4.0 study guide.
8. Which of the following plumbing fixture types is NOT
permitted to connect to a waste stack vent?
Bidets
Utility sink
Lavatories
Water closets
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BlewBe
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 06:44 pm |
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toilets/ water closets and urinals are connected to *soil* lines. waste lines carry the water from all other fixtures.
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sissyjen
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 06:59 pm |
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| Thank you!
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polyarch
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 12:40 am |
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why are you studying ARE 4.0? Seems like you passed a few before the deadline!
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sissyjen
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 03:45 am |
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| Not studying FOR 4.0, but just using the questions as additional practice for 3.1. I test this Wednesday.
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BlewBe
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 04:09 am |
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Let us know how it goes... I test Monday June 30.
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LibraLogic
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 02:53 pm |
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BlewBe wrote: toilets/ water closets and urinals are connected to *soil* lines. waste lines carry the water from all other fixtures.
Is a bidet NOT considered to produce "black water" (or water which would receive the same treatment as a toilet/water closet?)
I tend to refer to Toilets/Water Closets/Urinals/and Bidets...all as those which would all connect to the same sanitary(soil) stack...and treated much more thoroughly than the (grey water) which has much less treatment.....like Utility Sinks and Lavs...
Can somebody confirm this? Just sounds.....unsanitary.
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Far Galaxy
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 06:00 pm |
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LibraLogic wrote: BlewBe wrote: toilets/ water closets and urinals are connected to *soil* lines. waste lines carry the water from all other fixtures.
Is a bidet NOT considered to produce "black water" (or water which would receive the same treatment as a toilet/water closet?)
I tend to refer to Toilets/Water Closets/Urinals/and Bidets...all as those which would all connect to the same sanitary(soil) stack...and treated much more thoroughly than the (grey water) which has much less treatment.....like Utility Sinks and Lavs...
Can somebody confirm this? Just sounds.....unsanitary.
thank you.....
this question is as odd as the ARE deal. Bidet is considered to be soil line.....
If they really throw me that question, I'll have a long talk with those stups after the exam.
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LibraLogic
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 06:05 pm |
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Ok, thanks Galaxy, I was beginning to think I was missing something.....then again Im a firm believer that IS the intention of ARE......*sigh*.
I suppose I should get used to it.
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BlewBe
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 06:21 pm |
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LibraLogic wrote: BlewBe wrote: toilets/ water closets and urinals are connected to *soil* lines. waste lines carry the water from all other fixtures.
Is a bidet NOT considered to produce "black water" (or water which would receive the same treatment as a toilet/water closet?)
I tend to refer to Toilets/Water Closets/Urinals/and Bidets...all as those which would all connect to the same sanitary(soil) stack...and treated much more thoroughly than the (grey water) which has much less treatment.....like Utility Sinks and Lavs...
Can somebody confirm this? Just sounds.....unsanitary.
Technically, a bidet only cleans... think of it as a tiny water fountain. It is treated the same as a shower, so there should be no waste going down the drain. It still only produces grey water.
Make since?
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LibraLogic
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 06:51 pm |
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I could follow that Logic.....sure. And to reinforce that Logic Wikipedia describes a bidet as being used for the following:
"Bidets are primarily used to wash and clean the genitalia, inner buttocks, and anus"
Thus, one would appropriately have the impression that the result of using a bidet would contribute a higher percentage of "black water" than bathing or grey.... (perhaps depending on their hygiene).....
But, according to Wikipedia "Greywater is distinct from blackwater in the amount and composition of its chemical and biological contaminants (from feces or toxic chemicals)."
So either way, the point is arguably disputable, given the unknown of what "amount" is the actual threshold to go from grey to blackwater....
Sneaky ARE's....
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BlewBe
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 06:59 pm |
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Well lets hope people arent using bidets to clean large amounts of feces off themselves. 
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 09:37 pm |
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BlewBe wrote: Well lets hope people arent using bidets to clean large amounts of feces off themselves.  I just cracked up...........
The whole ARE thing is the most hideous story ever....
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 10:30 pm |
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| sorry. Last edited on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 10:31 pm by alomu
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 10:53 pm |
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