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Posted: Sat Jul 10th, 2004 05:32 pm |
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Part I: Intro and Preparation
This is the first test I’ve taken since February 2003 (third total). I would say that I spent more time studying for this exam than the others, yet left with a more negative impression of my performance.
I’ve browsed this forum for about three weeks now, gathering everything that I could to prepare for the exam. There is a lot of great information. I found the posts from others on the forum to be most beneficial. In that spirit, I would like to share my experience to help others get through this test.
Some background: I have 5 years professional experience after a BArch degree and have managed dozens of projects and buildings from design through construction. I would consider my knowledge and experience with MEP systems to be “so-so” compared to other subjects. At our (small) firm, we do quite a bit of these components as “design-build,” or more precisely, “fast-track,” in which my role is primarily coordination. My direct experience with MEP consultants has been limited to about 6 or 7 projects of the 5 or 6 dozen that I’ve worked on. So, I felt it necessary to prepare quite a bit.
I spent about 4 weeks studying, which was VERY difficult with my schedule – I averaged about 5 hours/week the first two weeks, and about 2 hours/night for the last two (give or take). My resources, and opinions of them:
Compiled Summary of ARE Forum comments:
Developed after scouring the forum posts and downloadable material. Helpful for specific potential questions, though in reality to a minimal degree.
Building Construction Illustrated, Francis D.K. Ching:
As someone else on this forum pointed out, a good “boot camp” read. Compact, fairly concise, and well illustrated. I began my study in a particular subject (HVAC systems, for example) from this book and then moved on to similar subjects in my other sources.
Architecture Exam Review, Volume II: Nonstructural Topics, 4th ed, David Kent Ballast:
This was my second source, which I read after the Ching book. Compact, has decent information, but (to me at least) was not easy to understand at times compared to the other sources.
Mechanical Plumbing/Elec Systems, Marc Schiler (ALS series), 1999 ed.
Well illustrated, fairly easy to understand. Good for concepts.
Architectural Graphic Standards, 10th ed.
The definitive sources for specifics on equipment. Well illustrated, good for detail, not so good for concepts. EVERY architect should have a copy within arms reach for actual practice, but most of you are probably aware of that.
Mechanical and Electrical Equipment for Buildings (MEEB), 9th ed., Stein & Reynolds:
As many have pointed out, if you can only have one source, this is it. If you have the stamina to read AND absorb the entire thing, not only will it address 95% of the questions you will encounter on the test, but you are a remarkable specimen of human intellect, and should perhaps consider a more high-paying career. But seriously, this should become a desk reference for every architect. It’s 1800 pages of good info. Very thorough, very detailed (sometimes too detailed at times), and pretty easy to read. Problem: there is just SO MUCH of it. The problem I found is that, after taking the test and reviewing the information I was able to find most of the answers within this book, though it was not always information that would be obvious to a casual reader. You really had to delve deep into the subject matter for some things. While studying, I read this after the other sources – i.e., I came prepared.
The Architect's Studio Companion: Rules of Thumb for Preliminary Design, 3rd Edition, Edward Allen, Joseph Iano:
I had this book all along and did not look at it until 2 days before the exam. Well, as far as a good source comparing various HVAC systems to each other, their applications, and their pros/cons, this is it. I highly recommend it. It, too, should become a resource to keep within arms length.
Archiflash Cards:
Good as a “refresher” for concepts and definitions. I used these last.
Part II: The Test
I feel like I put a great deal of effort into preparing for this exam, yet, after taking it, don’t believe that it was quite enough. Why? Because, the relevant subject material is so vast, I was not able to get into the detail (or rather, REMEMBER the detail) necessary to answer many questions. Here are some other general thoughts/comments/tips:
1. Some have stated that the exam is primarily about general concepts. For me, this was somewhat the case, but I would submit that a candidate knowing only general concepts would NOT pass the exam I took. MANY questions that I had were very specific in nature. There was one answer that I could not find without looking it up in the electrical code after the exam (it was not even in MEEB). And frankly, had I reviewed the electrical code prior, I still would have never thought to remember that particular section.
2. You have to know more than “general” concepts; you have to know how these “general” concepts are applied to real situations, with real equipment.
3. Reviewing the diagrams from MEEB is a good idea (there were several), but you can’t just skim them, you have to know what they are about. Example: I had a diagram from MEEB on the exam, but the question that was asked had nothing to do with the context in which the diagram was discussed in that particular section of MEEB.
4. The subject material of my exam was very diverse. It seems I had an equal sampling of thermal concepts, HVAC equipment, lighting, electrical, fire protection, and conveying systems. Do not concentrate in one area and disregard the others; all were represented on my exam.
5. I had two “history” questions, but they were application-based questions (i.e., you had to interpret the historical context and apply contemporary understanding).
6. I was bothered by the specificity of some of the questions. For example, I consider myself fairly well versed in accessibility issues, but was hit with a question that, IMHO, was far too specific.
7. Calculations: As said many times prior, they were all pretty easy. However, there was one specific “chart” question that was either a trick question or did not provide the most precise answer as an option. I fear it was the former. I wasted a good 5 minutes on this question alone, calculating and recalculating what I believed to be the correct solution.
8. If you are a quick study, can absorb information the first time around, and have the time and patience, you can probably pass the exam with one source: MEEB. However, proceed with caution. Most architects or pre-architects that I know (myself included) do not learn in this manner and benefit from multiple sources and perspectives. Of the sources I used, I feel all were beneficial in some way. I would focus a study around MEEB and use the others as intro or reference.
Ok, now to the “meat” of my advice. Based on my experience, I would recommend understanding of the following subject material in addition to the "standard fare" (i.e., your basic understanding of materials and concepts).
HVAC
1. The process of heat transfer.
2. Degree days.
3. Duct insulation.
4. Window ventilation.
5. Thermal storage capacity of materials.
SOLAR
1. Sun chart.
2. Roof configuration for photovoltaics.
PLUMBING
1. The sanitary system.
2. The storm water system.
3. Alternative methods to water supply.
4. Piping materials.
5. Piping designations.
6. Density of gasses.
7. ADA fixture requirements.
8. Dissimilar materials.
FIRE PROTECTION
1. Stages of fire.
2. Detectors and applicability.
3. Choice of sprinkler systems for specific building types.
4. System descriptions.
5. Loss of life.
ELECTRICAL
1. Service entrances.
2. Transformer lines/voltages.
3. Load reduction.
4. Clearance issues.
5. Load calculations.
6. Assumed continuous loads.
7. Outlet types.
8. Disconnects.
9. Power factors.
10. Underfloor raceways.
SIGNAL EQUIPMENT
1. Detector types.
LIGHTING
1. Visual discomfort.
2. Lamp types.
3. Fixture types (i.e., lighting distribution).
4. Color.
5. Duplicating lighting of historical space types.
6. Alternative lighting systems.
7. Color rendering of lamps.
8. Illumination levels for specific occupancies.
9. Ballasts.
10. Factors of zonal cavity method.
ACOUSTICS
1. Absorption in spaces.
2. Sound diffusion.
3. Methods of noise reduction.
4. Impact of openings in sound barrier.
CONVEYING SYSTEMS
1. Elevator types and advantages/disadvantages to each.
2. Escalators.
3. Elevator safety equipment.
GENERAL/OTHER
1. Site drainage.
2. Effects of wind pressure.
3. Life cycle cost analysis.
Closing Comments
I left the exam feeling very discouraged. I finished with 5 (yes five) seconds left. There was a very large portion of questions that I had marked for review, and I ended up changing a few of those answers. I found 98% of the material to be familiar, but many questions were either phrased in a way that was surprising to me, or they were of a level of specificity that I simply did not know. My exam required much more than a general understanding. In a sense, it was fairly “straightforward,” but perhaps a little too detailed than what I believe an architect should have to know without having the opportunity to consult relevant reference material. I was hoping for more “HVAC application” questions – i.e., what system to use where – but was disappointed in that regard. There are still questions that I have yet to find a definitive answer to.
I hope others will find this information helpful. There are undoubtedly other things that I will remember from the notes I took immediately after the exam (I don't have them in front of me) that I can share if anyone is interested. I intend to fully utilize the resources of this forum for my remaining exams: GS, LF, PD, and all three graphic portions (so if anyone has any advice to share...). I pray MEP is not added to that list!
Good luck!
-Eric
Last edited on Thu Jan 27th, 2005 04:17 am by ericB
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Posted: Sat Jul 10th, 2004 10:54 pm |
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 WOW! Nice work!!! Great first post!
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Posted: Sun Jul 11th, 2004 02:17 am |
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EricB:
Great post!!!
You get an A++++  (but where were you when I was studying for this one?)
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Posted: Sun Jul 11th, 2004 03:43 pm |
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CD wrote: (but where were you when I was studying for this one?)
I was probably still reeling from my MM test experience, and using YOUR posts to study for my MEP exam! (thanks, BTW).
On that first note, anyone know the precise reason that the Statue of Liberty was refurbished in the '80s? That question was on my MM exam (pre 3.0).
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Posted: Mon Jul 12th, 2004 09:08 pm |
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| I know they put in a new elevator in the Statue of Liberty, since my uncle worked for the company that did the work.
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Posted: Tue Jul 13th, 2004 03:31 am |
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Lorin wrote: I know they put in a new elevator in the Statue of Liberty, since my uncle worked for the company that did the work.
The question I was given dealt with the exterior refurbishing.
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Posted: Tue Jul 13th, 2004 03:52 am |
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I just reviewed my notes and came across a few more topics:
HVAC
1. Displacement ventilation.
2. Equipment connected to cooling towers.
3. Converters.
PLUMBING
1. Fixture demand factors.
2. Economics of piping material selection.
3. Flow-control roof drains.
LIGHTING
1. Factors of efficacy.
ACOUSTICS
1. Sound reduction over distance.
GENERAL/OTHER
1. Material reflectance.
2. Wall reflectance (as percentage of area).
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Posted: Tue Jul 13th, 2004 06:21 am |
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According to this website:
http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Landmarks/statue-reference.htm
These were the reasons for the SOL renovation...
Thousands of holes pitting the copper surface caused by a century of salt-air exposure
Distortion of the iron framework produced by continuous stress and fatigue
Previous repair attempts that created different problems and more deterioration
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Posted: Tue Jul 13th, 2004 07:09 pm |
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TurboJugend wrote:
Thousands of holes pitting the copper surface caused by a century of salt-air exposure
I think that's it! One of the other answers was "seagull droppings," or something to that effect.
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Posted: Wed Jul 14th, 2004 07:36 pm |
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I just finished the MEP exam today and left very discouraged as well.......I studied for 2 weeks day and night and found few of the questions related specifically to the study material....I am actually quite angry with ALS .........
Jeff
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Posted: Wed Jul 14th, 2004 10:33 pm |
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| ALS was definitely insufficient for the exam I took. It simply lacked the breadth of subject material that I encountered.
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Posted: Sun Jul 18th, 2004 03:17 pm |
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EricB
I recently took the MEP test on July 2nd. After going through and reading new posts I came across yours which basically detailed the same test I took. Your whole experience was identical to mine. I spent 4 weeks studying ALS, Archiflash, Allen's Book, Graphic Standard, and a hefty dose of MEEB. I left the test with little confidence, and wasn't quite sure what else I could have done. Keep the faith, I received my Pass yesterday. I was certain that I would be doing this one again in 6 months. I'm sure you did fine.
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Posted: Sun Jul 18th, 2004 09:33 pm |
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viking1 wrote: Keep the faith, I received my Pass yesterday. I was certain that I would be doing this one again in 6 months. I'm sure you did fine.
Thanks for the encouragement. I hope you're right!
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Posted: Thu Jul 22nd, 2004 04:32 pm |
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| I think whether you pass or fail depends on the number of people who have passed or failed in the past month and it must correspond to projected incomes of Prometric and NCARB. When too many have passed, some must fail. No sarcasm here.
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Posted: Fri Jul 23rd, 2004 05:56 pm |
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Hello
I just to my MEP exam and I feel like I did't do very well at all. I studied for 4 wks in the MEEB book.
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Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2004 03:04 am |
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Got my results today. I am happy to say that the long days and sleepless nights invested in my study for this exam apparently paid off.
Good luck to all of you who have yet to take this thing. Unless you deal directly with MEP issues on a regular basis in your practice, I highly recommend a fairly thorough yet definitely broad range of study in preparation.
3 down, 6 to go. Look for a synopsis of the PD exam shortly, as I take that on Friday.
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Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2004 01:00 pm |
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| congrats!
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Posted: Mon Aug 2nd, 2004 05:45 pm |
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As those who have taken this exam know, the difficulty is the breadth of the study material. No question is particularly difficult, it's a matter of covering enough terrain before the exam. With that said, I used the following materials to prepare:
MEEB, Ballast Non-structural topics, ALS study guides and this forum. The forum is particularly helpful at identifying study areas. Following are topics I either did not consider or did not consider in detail.
- Conduit placement in concrete
- Lighting fixture cost (which is more expensive)
- Air quality
- CU factor
- Heat pump components
- NFPA standards (sprinklers)
- Identification of elevatory signalling equip. at lobby
Best of luck to the rest of you & much thanks to those who have proceeded.
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Posted: Wed Aug 18th, 2004 03:49 pm |
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| I just went through it yersterday and it is exactly what you described. Very (shall we say misleading) in terms of the phrasing of questions. Anyway I think I am ghoing to be looking forward to taking it again in 6 months
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Posted: Thu Aug 26th, 2004 06:35 pm |
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I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to jot down all your thoughts about the ME exam. I am scheduled to take it on Oct. 9, so with 6 weeks to go- I have been reading the ALS book and am beginning to go through MEEB. But I appreciate bein gable to better focus my studying, since I am quite nervous about this particular exam (only my 2nd one).
Thanks again! 
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Posted: Thu Aug 26th, 2004 07:12 pm |
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kmoose wrote: I am scheduled to take it on Oct. 9, so with 6 weeks to go
Kmoose,
A personal observation......6 weeks in my opinion may be too long to study for this exam. With the bredth that this exam covers 6 week old info in your brain may not be sharp. I understand family and life commitments affect our study habits. Trust me I know I have a wife and a 7 month old son. I had even less time to study about 2 weeks or so (see my post from yesterday). 4 weeks should be adequate to study for this exam. You should easily get MEEB read adequatly in this amount of time.
Just a thought.
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Posted: Thu Aug 26th, 2004 08:27 pm |
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Six weeks is more than enough time to study, though I wouldn't say it's too much time. I would agree that subjects studied 6 weeks in advance are likely to fade if you don't revisit them, but you can use that time period in another way.
I would spend the first two weeks getting acquainted with all of the systems in a general and conceptual way (i.e., read Ching and skim MEEB), then get into ALS, MEEB, AGS, and Architect's Studio Companion on a system-by-system basis. That way your focused study builds upon a general familiarity. The studying methods that I have found most useful are redundancy and use of multiple sources for a single subject. Others, however, may find alternative methods more suitable.
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Posted: Thu Aug 26th, 2004 08:44 pm |
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ericB wrote: I would agree that subjects studied 6 weeks in advance are likely to fade if you don't revisit them, but you can use that time period in another way.
Good point, I guess I just get anxious and want to take them and get it over with. I do have a bit of a short attention span, if I study for one thing too long I get bored.
It all comes down to how familiar you are with the material when you start. If you wouldn't know a VAV box from boiler you may need extra time to come up to speed.
Good luck to all,
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Posted: Thu Aug 26th, 2004 09:32 pm |
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NitroNate...
We're definitely on the same page.
I study 5 hours a day for 2 weeks (or less)...that's about all I can handle. Especially with my very busy work schedule..managing projects, just completing building my house, etc...I NEED to take the exam within 2 weeks from when I crack open the books to start studying.
With that said....even with all the studying I've been doing, I don't think I'm quite prepared for this exam. I am taking the exam 3 hours from now, and I am about to go crazy. I think I've just about covered every aspect of MEP...I just think that I've already forgotten a lot.
I am very impresse dwith all of you who have already passed.
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Posted: Fri Aug 27th, 2004 02:10 am |
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Keep in mind, always, that you don't have to get them ALL right. Just enough to get through. Or at least, that's what I keep telling myself.
Now, as far as studying time goes, I wish I took more time to study for the GS exam I have in about 10 hours... I don't know, the material is just not sinking in as much as it should. I used to be decent at math, and was even a structures TA, but my mind has turned completely to mush since then, and I'm still struggling to maintain basic things like shear and deflection calculations. I NEVER would have thought that I would be more prepared for the MEP exam than basic structures...
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