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kahnKing Member

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Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 06:30 pm |
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Dear PD/CD takers:
For those who have passed these exams, what is the best study materials
and strategies? Which should one take first, PD or CD? I have failed these 3 times
maginally on Code & Regulation Contents--I donot intend to fail again. Your imput
would be highly appreciated.
KahnKing
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gracecol Member

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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 03:38 pm |
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I did CD before PD and I thought it was good that way. I haven't get the results from PD, so I still don't know if I passed.
For CD, I did study Kaplan, Ballast and A201, B141 and other contract documents. Then, after studying for a while I did some sample questions from Kaplan and from Ballast, that help a lot to see if I was ready for the test.
My best advise, read read and reread contracts A201 and owner-architect agreements.
Also, know project delivery methods, estimating, scheduling, etc.
Then, for PD, I used Kaplan, Ballast and the FTP site for history, and others.
Hope this help and finally at the test:
Take time reading very good the question and then analyze answers, sometimes the question lead you to the right answer is just a wording thing.
Good luck!
Last edited on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 03:39 pm by gracecol
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kahnKing Member

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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 06:53 pm |
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Thanks gracecol for sharing your thoughts...
In addition to what you outlined, were you involed in
your day-to-day practice in the areas? If so, do you think
that helped? I have been in the profession for 15 years and
I notice that just working on design and CD (drafting) without
CA work makes it hard to grasp the law and practice that is required
to answer any question in the PD/CD exams. For example, in MES,
I notice that there we graphs that one was expect to analyze for
costing, this was very weird to see that estimating would appear in this
exam.
Thanks again.
Kahnking
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Jeremy Jones Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 3rd, 2008 04:18 pm |
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I would definitely take Cd before Pre-Design. I have taken both and you will get a lot of information on Pre-Design that will be covered in CD's. What I used to pass CD's was the Kaplan book(take all of the quizzes and tests), read and understand A201 and B141 contract documents. I used the archiflash cards and the ALS cd for additional test question practice. I downloaded the ARE test questions for CD's off this site and read some of the forum topic's for experience info. I don't think that the amount of time matters on how you study but rather if you understand the big picture. I read the Kaplan book during the week, took all the tests and went over the flashcards over the weekend and took the test on Monday, and felt good going in and good coming out. The important thing was that I felt I understood the material and could have a conversation or debate with anyone on the topic of CD's. I would say after reading all the study material that you are going to use, take the sample quizzes and tests, and if you are not getting 80%'s or higher right out of the gate then go back and read your material again. Those contract documents that are mentioned in Kaplan are key to passing the exam. My exam was made up of about 50%-60% on questions directly on or related to those documents. Good luck, I hope I helped in some way.
Jeremy
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kahnKing Member

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Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 09:44 pm |
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Thanks Jeremy Jones for your insightful advise. I am going to study the contracts
very well. I remember a while back when I took this exam, there were some few
calcs and life-cycle-cost analysis. Can you confirm?
Thanks
KahnKing
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gracecol Member

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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 02:25 pm |
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kahnKing wrote:
In addition to what you outlined, were you involed in
your day-to-day practice in the areas? If so, do you think
that helped?
I've been working in US for 5 years now, and at an Engineering company. My experience with CD is only from the CM aspect. I do CM, so that's bascally my experience. As long as you know well the contracts, specially A201, you'll do fine.
Just read and understand the different situations, insurances, responsibilities, roles, etc.
Hope this helps, good luck!
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Jeremy Jones Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 03:18 pm |
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| Yes there was, but real basic stuff, nothing that made me say WTF.
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kahnKing Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 10:39 pm |
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Hey Jeremy Jones,
and were do we learn about this cost? When I look at the Kaplan
books, it appears they donot cover all CD content areas. It appears
that to acquire knowledge in the 5 content areas NCARB specify, one
needs additional resource. I am wondering if someone has compiled a
list of books or references that if one studied properly, would be ready
to tackle all questions from these content areas.
KahnKing.
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