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I've been studying for this exam for a few weeks now. I have come to realize a few things that are easy to miss so I wanted to lay them out for others.  It's one thing to do it while practicing, but you DON'T want to do them in the exam.  I hope this list will help. This isn't a step by step what to do - there are several really useful threads on that already (see next post for list) - just how to not miss anything.





BEFORE YOU BEGIN THE PRACTICE PROBLEMS, DO THE TUTORIAL!





You have to know how all the tools work, even if you think you know them already from the other graphic exams. They AREN'T the same!


 

Interior Layout -

  1. When writing your furniture list, draw the diamond as the first piece of furniture for the reception area.
  2. First things to do - turn on ortho, change to full cursor, draw a bunch of sketch circles (3' and 5') and sketch rectangles (4'6x5'0), (5'0x4'6), and (4'0x4'0).
  3. IMMEDIATELY place a 4x4 rectangle at the entrance door to the suite and place the reception area symbol inside of it.
  4. Last thing to do - walk through your suite with the sketch lines and grid OFF.  Try to sit in/use each piece of furntiure.  Walk from room to room to make sure each has a door and the adjacencies and windows are there.  You'll be amazed to realize that you may have drawn a wall into a window without realizing it, had a chair facing the back of the door, or a door you thought you placed no longer exists.
  5. Do not make any changes without turning the sketch layer back on first.
Schematic Design -
  1. First things to do - turn on ortho, change to full cursor, draw all of your rooms on the site. 
  2. VERIFY that you drew the rooms on the correct floor by going through your list and moving them over to the side. Don't just eyeball it because an extra room could be there or one missing.
  3. Last thing to do - just like in IL, walk through your building.  Walk from room to room to make sure each has a door from the corridor and the adjacencies and windows are there.  Once again, you'll be amazed to realize that a door/window/wall opening you had placed no longer exists, doors/visual windows still exist in a location they shouldn't because of something you relocated, rooms don't actually open to a corridor, or you never even drew the corridor (remember, it never leaves the list so that isn't helpful.)
These are just the things I've found so far.  If I find more I'll add to the list. Keep reading below for more tips and suggestions. Please add others as well.

Best of luck to everyone.

~gnr~

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 Posted: Mon Mar 20th, 2006 02:12 pm

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Threads with tips for tackling BP (some have links to additional threads)

Is there a list of study tips available?

One of my favorite tips...

Questions (version 3.1) - clarifies chair clearance issues

BP tips

A List of Tips and Tricks

SD Techiques

IL Efficiency

Compiled Tips for Building Planning






Frequently asked questions:

Table for four: diagram.jpg (from Wohlfie) - full discussion: efficiency compare of Table of 4

Door question on SD

Window question on SD

Dead End Corridor Clarification

Secretary Desk Issue 

Elevator door opening

What are all the clearance requirements on the interior layout vignette?

bp questions  (Door swing and 5' circle overlap)

Do you put windows in other rooms?






Other helpful tidbits:

Alt Practice Files (Instructions for use in the folder as well an alt program for use with or without the alt furniture file.) Thanks to arktiktur for his assistance with these.

Countdown Timer Software

Good reception layout: http://www.areforum.org/forums/forum8/13419.html

DORF_CHART_SPLIT.jpg

how do you make a .pdf of the practice exam? (covers all graphic formats)









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Thanks for the links!

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great job, gnrbernstein!...;)

i'm sure a lot of members out there would be putting these into great use!

and one little thing to add....before you start on each section, say a little prayer and that will surely make you calm down and think a lot easier!....goodluck to all!

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gnrbernstein wrote: I've been studying for this exam for a few weeks now. I have come to realize a few things that are easy to miss so I wanted to lay them out for others.  It's one thing to do it while practicing, but you DON'T want to do them in the exam.  I hope this list will help. This isn't a step by step what to do - there are several really useful threads on that already (see next post for list) - just how to not miss anything.

Interior Layout -
  1. First things to do - turn on ortho, change to full cursor, draw a bunch of sketch circles (3' and 5') and sketch rectangles (4'6x5'0), (5'0x4'6), and (4'0x4'0).
  2. IMMEDIATELY place a 4x4 rectangle at the entrance door to the suite and place the RA symbol inside of it.
  3. Last thing to do - walk through your suite with the sketch lines and grid OFF.  Try to sit in/use each piece of furntiure.  Walk from room to room to make sure each has a door and the adjacencies and windows are there.  You'll be amazed to realize that you may have drawn a wall into a window without realizing it, had a chair facing the back of the door, or a door you thought you placed no longer exists.
  4. Do not make any changes without turning the sketch layer back on first.
  5. insert each piece of all the furniture from the list in room groups. You can make a large sketch rectangle for each room. Place it near but off to the side of the drawing area.
  6. Don't make a hand written list of all the furniture. There is not enough time. Place the furniture first and then flip screens and check each group that was placed around the plan before you begin to layout walls.
Schematic Design -
  1. First things to do - turn on ortho, change to full cursor, draw all of your rooms on the site. 
  2. VERIFY that you drew the rooms on the correct floor by going through your list and moving them over to the side. Don't just eyeball it because an extra room could be there or one missing.
  3. Last thing to do - just like in IL, walk through your building.  Walk from room to room to make sure each has a door from the corridor and the adjacencies and windows are there.  Once again, you'll be amazed to realize that a door/window/wall opening you had placed no longer exists, doors/visual windows still exist in a location they shouldn't because of something you relocated, rooms don't actually open to a corridor, or you never even drew the corridor (remember, it never leaves the list so that isn't helpful.)
These are just the things I've found so far. If I find more I'll add to the list.

~gnr~

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thanks for sharing...;) more power!!!!!!!!

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stl-guy :  Thanks for the additional tips.

:)

~gnr~

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gnrbernstein wrote: stl-guy :  Thanks for the additional tips.

:)

~gnr~

Here are a few more things that I think are important.
  • carefully read the design vignette program
  • carefully read the design vignette code
  • Follow only these instructions and nothing else regarding CODE. Some good design judgement will be needed but not code.
Compare each. There will often be important information in one part that relates to another.
  • All problems will have one large room. This room will usually have a high ceiling. This room will by program need two exits. By code, if a room needs 2 exits, they always need to swing out of the room. These are the only rooms where doors should swing out.
  • All exit doors from lobby and from first floor stair shaft to exterior should swing out.
  • All circulation corridors should be continuous and each end needs to lead directly to an exit.
  • All building exit doors should swing out of the building in the direction of exit travel. Use exiting through stairs for efficiency, in addition to the lobby entrance/exit.
  • Separate all required exits at least 1/2 the maximum diagonal distance of the room.
  • Dead-end corridors are corridors that don't have 2 ways out from a corridor and are 20' or more in length.
  • Near is about 20' from door to door.
  • Direct access is an adjoining door
  • visual access is usually an interior view window, reasonably close.
  • room sizes should be usable. A 7' wide toilet room is not usable. Try for about 2:1.
  • Elevators are best drawn at 10' x 10'
  • Best not to draw equipment rooms or mechanical rooms on the second floor.
and .....

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Thanks so much for taking the time to compile this list of tips.  My only tip (and please correct me if I'm wrong, anybody) is that in the SD, by being able to increase or decrease a space by 10% one is able to better adjust the spaces to avoid awkward ratios and gaps or conversely overcrowding.

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Rio wrote: Thanks so much for taking the time to compile this list of tips.  My only tip (and please correct me if I'm wrong, anybody) is that in the SD, by being able to increase or decrease a space by 10% one is able to better adjust the spaces to avoid awkward ratios and gaps or conversely overcrowding.


I have always practiced it this way but I sure would like to know when the grading system says enough is enough. Not that I see this being possible but WHAT IF you somehow had all your spaces 9.9% above or below the programmed size? Last night I did a mock exam and I made my custodial room 109 sf, just 1% under the limit and it made me anxious. Rarely do I ever get my rooms spot on, usually they are within 2%, usually over and I have to assume this is okay. Anyone have a clue one way or the other?

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TomH wrote: Rio wrote: Thanks so much for taking the time to compile this list of tips.  My only tip (and please correct me if I'm wrong, anybody) is that in the SD, by being able to increase or decrease a space by 10% one is able to better adjust the spaces to avoid awkward ratios and gaps or conversely overcrowding.


I have always practiced it this way but I sure would like to know when the grading system says enough is enough. Not that I see this being possible but WHAT IF you somehow had all your spaces 9.9% above or below the programmed size? Last night I did a mock exam and I made my custodial room 109 sf, just 1% under the limit and it made me anxious. Rarely do I ever get my rooms spot on, usually they are within 2%, usually over and I have to assume this is okay. Anyone have a clue one way or the other?


I would not worry about a any room being exact square footage. It is relatively easy to make them very close so it is advisable that you do so but the program gives you a 10% tolerance.

If all rooms are pushing 10% over or under, you might be pushing the envelope but this is where the judgment thing comes in.

You know that a toilet needs to be a certain width for an aisle and and a stall, that needs to be the minimum width for your solution.  7' just won't make it.  You know how wide a stair needs to be, etc. The same really applies to rooms like meeting rooms. Something long and narrow probably won't work as well as a 2.5:1 space but who cares if it is 10% larger or smaller.

I guess I would try to meet the program where possible. If it says 10%, shoot for 5% or less.  This program looks for your judgement the same as the written parts. If you make a decesion that is way over or under the perscribed, you will get a downgrade. Some tests allow more downgrades than others before the number of downgrades add up to fail. 

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zw wrote: Also, I found one TIP: draw sketch lines 3' from the the exterior wall make the E[xec] D[esk] location easy to locate.


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here's a checklist i made for SD.  i took SD before (it was IL that tripped me up) and would recommend if/when you finish with an hour to spare, get up for a glass of water and return with the following list in mind:

-use the check tool

-walk yourself through the stairs an make sure your doors don't make for head clearance issues

-zoom into any close building lines to make sure you haven't gone over.  door swings can cross the BL but not the Property Line.

-make sure you actually drew corridors.  and use the wall open tool to connect all corridors and lobby.

-did you draw the open to below space over double height?

-double and triple check with program to make sure you have all spaces drawn and that they comply with program.

-use ID tool tocheck all sq footages.

-lastly add windows (int views, ext views and regular ext windows).  i use 6' each, but there is debate over what to do.

-lastly doors.  interior swing into room, exterior swing out of building.  actually i think the doubkle ht double egress room swings out in both cases for egress.

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do we have confirmation that wolfhie's "Table for four" is acceptable in the exam? http://www.areforum.org/forums/attachment.php?id=8146
It shows how you can set a table for four ina corner, and have HC access to all chairs.  No reason to have to circulate behind these two chairs if you can access them as in the image?


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Posture Chair Info:

http://www.areforum.org/forums/forum8/13646.html

Prof. Dorf quote:

My take on this: "posture chairs" in my time, were substituted for stools, something more comfortable when drafting, etc....with less strain on back. Seems to me if you get posture chairs, then likely you will get a worktable, or something similar. I suggest those chairs be used in comjunction with those elements tables, not placed against the wall.......but even that would get some credit.

CJ Note:
I placed them against the wall and did NOT fail. May have been a downgrade - but not a failer.

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wow, thanks for the list and the links.  it's great.  and this diagram is perfect.  is it true?  makes life a little easier.  i tend to try to overkill -get the 3'circles all around everything- and it's a waste of time.


kevin881 wrote:
do we have confirmation that wolfhie's "Table for four" is acceptable in the exam? http://www.areforum.org/forums/attachment.php?id=8146
It shows how you can set a table for four ina corner, and have HC access to all chairs.  No reason to have to circulate behind these two chairs if you can access them as in the image?

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http://www.areforum.org/forums/forum8/14116.html

no worries about yellow windows, folks

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yellow snow, yes.... yellow windows, no.

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Added new link in list above

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We're STICKIED!!! :D Thanks moderator!

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Maybe it's because I'm somewhat new to the forum, but what does "We're STICKIED" mean?  Is that bad? 

:? Tea

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It's a VERY good thing. :) Now it won't get lost.  It stays here forever.

This should explain: Posting Positioning

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exceptional post... it looks like the moderator has gone thru and sticky-ed a few more in the other forums. at least there's now one in the LEED forum...

thanks for your huge amount of EFFORT to do this.

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Just finished the exam yesterday and wanted to pass on a few tips for the IL section.  It seemed to go very well, as I was able to substantially complete the layout in 45 minutes with all but very minor (and probably optional) tweaks in the last 10 min.  The SD section also went very well, but I don't have any more to add to the great advice and techniques already given.

Until a couple weeks ago, I was using some of the tips offered by gnrbernstein and others, but was still having trouble finishing in the time frame.  A friend of mine passed on an additional useful tip that really saved a lot of time. Here is how I approached the exam problem; sorry if some of this info is a little redundant:
 
- Read program and transcribe all requirements in shorthand on paper.  This includes reading over the entire program page, not just the section with the furniture listing.  Although in practice this took 5 min, it ended up taking 8-10 on the test but it was useful since some important info was buried in the instructions that I might otherwise have missed.

- Place the RBO diamond in front of the entry door, turn the gird and ortho on.

- Draw a bunch of 3' (about 20), 5' circles (about 6), and 4'6" x 5' and 5' x 4'6" rectangles (about 6 each) at the top of the screen.  Drawing multiple circles is easy, but I found that drawing the rectangles exactly on top of each other was much faster than drawing them separately because you only have to be careful watching the dimension listings for the first one.

- Quickly block out the rooms based on the required adjacencies right on the drawing area with 2-3 individual lines for each room. This single line layout is the tip my friend passed along, and it really helped to quickly address the general room proportion and anticipate door access issues up front. Except for party walls, it is better to make each room with its own set of lines, as opposed to a single line that spans across a series of rooms, since the individual lines allows for more flexibility.
 
Though it takes a few minutes to block out the rooms, it avoids having to make major adjustments and redo furniture arrangements later when there were a lot of impacts on bordering rooms. I usually try for an overall L-shape arrangement of rectangular rooms placed along two of the 4 four exterior walls with the reception/entry taking up the residual space.  
 
 
-Layout the conference room first, including at least 4 of the 3' circles and the door clearance rectangles.  I had to rotate the table once, but once done, was quickly able to tell that the rest of the layout would generally work with minor modifications.  Move the 5' clearance circles into the other rooms just to get a sense of scale, making sure that each room was around 7' wide or more, and has no less that 1:2 proportion.
 
-Place the rest of the furniture outside its corresponding room
 
-Layout the furniture for everything but the reception/entry area. Start with the office with the most furniture and continue with the rest of the rooms, including the clearance circles and rectangles as you go.  I found that the door clearance rectangles were a good reminder for door placement later on, and easier to manipulate while I was still tweaking furniture and walls. Try to be reasonably efficient with each room and the sizing of the reception/entry area should take care of itself.

- Place all the walls

- Layout the reception/entry furniture

- Place the doors

- Turn off grid and sketch guides- look for obvious mistakes (missing doors), recheck furniture list for each room

- Turn guides back on, zoom in and double check clearance.

- Zoom-out, turn guides off and double check that no door has disappeared.

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Describes Me: Trying to see the light at the end of this ...
Status:  Offline
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 Posted: Thu Oct 26th, 2006 01:16 am