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Posted: Sat Jan 27th, 2007 05:04 pm |
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i took building planning for the second time last week and used the tips in the post to help a lot. interior layout was so so. with 1 minute left i ran the check and for some reason one of my pieces of furniture was "overlapping" the wall. even zoming in i couldn't see it. just moved it off the wall and into a corner. hope that doesn't burn me.
anyways, my tip, which is for the schematic design is design with a 10' modual. going through the program, all the rooms are multiples of 10'. this made it a lot easier to design. as i designed the first floor i thought of how the pieces fit on the second floor. this helped me so much that the first time i took this test i didn't finish and my circulation was 27% of the program. the second time i finished with 1 hr and 20 minutes to go and my circulation was 9%.
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Posted: Wed Jan 31st, 2007 04:02 am |
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I definately recommend getting professor dorf's solutions book and all of his other materials (esp. the ncarb tutorial problem solutions and mock exams). he has a ton of information that would be hard to come by anywhere else.
Kaplan's graphic sections study guides suck suck suck suck suck, so does the are's study guide. I am proof as this is my second try at the site and building planning sections. Passed building technology on the first try - probably because it's content is actually somewhat close to what architects do on a daily basis (at least when compared to the other sections of the exam).
Kaplan is ok for the multiple choice sections - passed all those on the first try.
I wish i had discovered this forum and prof. dorf prior to taking the exam the last time... you all rule!
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Posted: Fri Feb 2nd, 2007 03:57 am |
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LOOK AT THE FTP SITE!!!!! THERE ARE EXTRA PRACTICE PROBLEMS ON THERE FOR THE GRAPHICS DIVISIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Thu Feb 8th, 2007 01:27 am |
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alright, just finished taking the bp and sp exams today. nothing major popping into mind that could have gone wrong yet.
* the il portion was much easier than the practice exam (the version i got anyway - easier than the last time i took it as well) there was plenty of space to move stuff around in. i found that move group works really well for moving entire rooms around without having to rethink the furniture arrangements.
* the schematic design section was a bit harder than the practice exam - mostly because of the 1-2 flr relationships... eventually got it to work though. hopefully good enough for a pass. no real tips here, just try to relax and keep moving things until it begins to make sense.
* grading was a bit too easy - very much like the practice problem...kinda scares me.
* zoning - just follow their directions, like connect the dots.
* site planning - harder than the ncarb practice problem, but easier than stl-guy's... practice stl-guys a lot to gain confidence here. move group tool is very useful here.
good luck everyone!
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Posted: Thu Feb 8th, 2007 04:18 am |
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Good luck Melissa and thanks for the info
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Posted: Sat Feb 24th, 2007 04:16 pm |
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Gnrbernstein wrote: VERIFY that you drew the rooms on the correct floor by going through your list and moving them over to the side. Don't just eyeball it because an extra room could be there or one missing.
I'm a little confused over this part. The SD program doesn't list which floor for all of the rooms. Some are listed but don't say if they need to be on 1 or 2. How can you draw all of the rooms on the right layer without knowing the floor to which they belong? ...Or do you just draw the rooms by floor per the program and then place the remaining rooms on whichever floor they will fit?
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Posted: Fri Mar 9th, 2007 10:01 pm |
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When you have your SD layout ready and are ready for doors/windows, use this system to install your doors/windows in the following order. Complete each step for each floor before moving on to the next step. (write this down on your practice paper):
1. primary egress doors (stairs, entry, big room w/2 exits) Check your 1/2 diagonal separation measured CL door to CL door. Remember your lobby falls under the 20' dead end corridor rule. Double and triple check this before going on to the next step.
3. doors for "direct access" rooms
4. doors for all other rooms, opening into room from circulation space
5. windows for "visual control"
6. View windows
7. other windows
do not show any doors/windows that are not mandated by program--this will distract you when you are checking your work
For IL, draw each room (drawn really tiny) with its furniture off to the side, separated by a sketch line from the other rooms and their attendant furniture--don't use sketch rectangles to cordon off the groups, because the software always selects sketch items first when what you want to do you want to select the furniture so you can move it into place
For IL, for your initial layout do not take the time to rotate chairs, files, or bookcases so they are facing the right way. Just place them. Only when you have double checked that your clearances work in the entire layout should you fine tune the furniture, room by room (such as making sure your bookcases aren't facing the wall)
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Posted: Sat Apr 21st, 2007 03:49 am |
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cfd369 wrote: Gnrbernstein wrote: VERIFY that you drew the rooms on the correct floor by going through your list and moving them over to the side. Don't just eyeball it because an extra room could be there or one missing.
I'm a little confused over this part. The SD program doesn't list which floor for all of the rooms. Some are listed but don't say if they need to be on 1 or 2. How can you draw all of the rooms on the right layer without knowing the floor to which they belong? ...Or do you just draw the rooms by floor per the program and then place the remaining rooms on whichever floor they will fit?
In the program , a few rooms have an explicit requirement to be in a particular floor. But then, when you start looking at relationaships between rooms (i.e:"direct access", "near", etc), you begin to realize that most of the rooms can only be in one floor or the other. After that, only a few rooms remain "ambiguous", you can place them on either floor.
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Posted: Fri May 4th, 2007 08:47 pm |
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I'm in total agreement with Kato's piece of advise on the 'sketch lines' above.
Priceless piece of advise, thanks Kato!
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Posted: Tue May 22nd, 2007 06:15 pm |
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These are great tips. Here are a few more:
Slam anything you can into a corner (coffee table, arm chair, bkcase) to get it as out of the way as possible, but watch out for pieces blocking each other at corners.
Put one side of the executive desk against a wall, and back it up to the wall as much as possible. DON'T put any furniture behind the desk if you can avoid it. It just increases your clearance requirements unnecessarily.
Plop a 5'-0" circle in every room RIGHT AWAY. It's the easiest thing to forget. I actually draw these before I draw the room, like it's a piece of furniture.
Double-check that nothing (esp. chairs & bkcases) is accidentally facing a wall.
When first placing furniture, I like to place it overlapping a wall, so that when I use the check tool later, it will warn me if I've forgotten to give something a final placement. That's just me.
When measuring clearances with a circle, be sure you're using the DIAMETER of the circle. I often see posts where someone has placed a circle measuring a chord just off of the diameter -- they don't have 3'-0" clear. Slide it back and forth to make sure it can fit through. If you've failed the test and don't know why, I'll bet there's a good chance this is the culprit.
Finally: when you're done, grab a 3'-0" circle and "walk" around. Use every piece of furniture AND EVERY DOOR. You'll be amazed what you've missed.
Breathe. If you don't breathe for an hour, you will die.
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Posted: Sat Jun 2nd, 2007 06:24 am |
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It was tough to pick up the study material for the test after I put it aside for two years. I have been study and prepare for today building planning exam, and I am not sure how well of the result.
One thing for sure not understands why the software kept warning about the wall is over lapping on my first Vignette. The walls were not over lapping and I have checked over and over again. I met all of their code requirements and still not sure while the warning won't go away. Time went out and proceeds to next section.
The lesson learned today. Be very careful on your second Vignette. I thought the layout has met the entire code requirement. Not until I walked out the door and realized that I didn't relocate the elevator shaft to match the first floor. Point will be taking out and not sure my chance passing this one possible very slim.
Please be aware to go over each room patiently and triple checking may not be a bad idea after all. Good luck to all of you.
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Posted: Fri Jun 8th, 2007 03:20 pm |
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I would add this to things to watch for, as I made the same mistake in my practice test and in my actual one. I put some second floor rooms behind the blue room, and because they need a view in that direction, I put windows in the wall between the yellow and blue room walls. It was almost as if the upper floor part of the big room was invisible to me. Ofcourse, this might be a personal mindblock.
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Posted: Mon Jun 18th, 2007 01:28 am |
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For SD:
Draw room proportion sketch lines (1.5:1 ideal, 2:1 at most). Turn on the grid, turn off ortho, then eyeball to create the proportion line (see pic). When I need to align and resize rooms, I overlay the line over the room so that I can easily maintain a nice proportion without having to consult my calculator (or even worse, my neurotic brain). I move the line(s) around as needed. I rely on it in conjuction with the status bar at the bottom of the window to draw up and adjust the rooms. Remember, there ia a 10% tolerance in each required room size.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27th, 2007 06:48 pm |
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you know what I did? I put a double door on the exterior of the mechanical room. WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY? Because I thought of all the times I have done it in practice to maintain, repair equipment. DON'T DO IT!
Also, watch your circulation square footage and do not exceed the max.
I still kick myself for putting the doors on the mech room.
Professor Dorf was a very good instructor and architect. Are there resources out there that can compare to his ARE Solutions??
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Posted: Fri Jul 27th, 2007 06:50 pm |
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rrw wrote: For SD:
Draw room proportion sketch lines (1.5:1 ideal, 2:1 at most). Turn on the grid, turn off ortho, then eyeball to create the proportion line (see pic). When I need to align and resize rooms, I overlay the line over the room so that I can easily maintain a nice proportion without having to consult my calculator (or even worse, my neurotic brain). I move the line(s) around as needed. I rely on it in conjuction with the status bar at the bottom of the window to draw up and adjust the rooms. Remember, there ia a 10% tolerance in each required room size.
That's clever. Good tip!
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Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2007 03:04 pm |
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| Checklists are great because it's hard to count on your memory when the clock is ticking down. When you walk into the test room make a checklist BEFORE starting the test. You can't take a checklist in with you but you can make a checklist on their time. Run through your checklist at the end and avoid having to kick yourself for forgetting something simple.
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Posted: Mon Aug 20th, 2007 04:00 am |
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rrw wrote: For SD:
Draw room proportion sketch lines (1.5:1 ideal, 2:1 at most). Turn on the grid, turn off ortho, then eyeball to create the proportion line (see pic). When I need to align and resize rooms, I overlay the line over the room so that I can easily maintain a nice proportion without having to consult my calculator (or even worse, my neurotic brain). I move the line(s) around as needed. I rely on it in conjuction with the status bar at the bottom of the window to draw up and adjust the rooms. Remember, there ia a 10% tolerance in each required room size.
To draw the proportion line and get the right angle do I just draw a line with rise over run of 1.5 to 1? Is that how you do it?
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Posted: Wed Aug 22nd, 2007 05:23 am |
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JonD wrote:To draw the proportion line and get the right angle do I just draw a line with rise over run of 1.5 to 1? Is that how you do it?
pretty much. i would use larger numbers like 15 and 10 to make a longer line, but the same ratio. in the end, you're drawing a diagonal line that more or less cuts through two opposing corners of your rooms to make sure their proportion is not too off from what's recommended.
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Posted: Tue Sep 4th, 2007 09:32 pm |
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I have seen some confusing/incorrect information about door swing direction from whatever large room we will have in the plan. The program/code will likely require two exits from that room...one of them to the exterior. These doors must swing out of the large room. These are doors to the exterior or to a corridor or other circulation space.
Doors to adjacent rooms cannot, by definition, be exit doors (you cannot exit through an intervening space). That means that other doors to adjacent rooms can swing in either direction...they do not have to swing out of the large room.
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| Where is the FTP site located?
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LuvthoseSox wrote: Where is the FTP site located?
...at the top of every page. 
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| Thanks. New to this site.
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LuvthoseSox wrote: Thanks. New to this site.
Lots of folks ask. Feel free to slap your forehead. 
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Posted: Tue Oct 2nd, 2007 08:43 pm |
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hey gnr.
maybe i missed it but what about under faq for sd: definition of near +/-20'-0"
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why the rectangles? can u please explain? thank you.
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New T44 diagram:
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| Lug-nut, kindly explain why is the last T44 not acceptable. I have read many of your posts and have been very helpful. I am still not absolutely clear on T44.
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