I have been working as an intern for over 4 years

[Ivan_B]

Hello i was wondering if i can register a 20 hours a week, unpaid internship?

[King]

Did u transfer ur IDP credit to NCARB?
If not, you might have lost all 4 years of credit.
Check out NCARB.org

[Not Dead Yet]

Originally Posted by Ivan_B

Hello i was wondering if i can register a 20 hours a week, unpaid internship?

I don't think NCARB will accept an unpaid intern position. Check out the Intern Guidelines:

http://www.ncarb.org/en/Experience-T...ternships.aspx

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Ivan_B

Hello i was wondering if i can register a 20 hours a week, unpaid internship?

WTF are you doing taking an unpaid internship?!

And for 4 years no less!!!

IMO, not giving credit for unpaid internships is the best thing ncarb has ever done where IDP is concerned. We all need to work to eliminate slavery.

[buffalo]

Originally Posted by Ivan_B

Hello i was wondering if i can register a 20 hours a week, unpaid internship?

lets talk about back-pay.
there are very specific guidelines/rules/laws regarding "unpaid internships".
they (ui) are usually bogus. and after 4 yrs, yours sounds bogus.

were you doing meanial task, that held no educational benifit to you?
were you doing the work a paid employee would have done?
was you work creating profit for your benifactor?

federal law says illegal and that guy owes you four years worth of money.
you can look it up when you research that IDP stuff.

and before you respond "looks good on a resume",
ask yourself if "the value of your time, ability, and worth is really zero" sounds good at a job interview

best of luck

p.s. probaly doesn't count because there is not suppose to be substantial work/effort involved in an unpaid internship

[Coach]

Originally Posted by buffalo

lets talk about back-pay.

Yes, let's

there are very specific guidelines/rules/laws regarding "unpaid internships".
they (ui) are usually bogus. and after 4 yrs, yours sounds bogus.

4 years? Absolutely bogus.

It was a hit and run post. He's not coming back. Crowd's too tough.

[that_ideadude]

The "star" architect who "hired" him into intern slavery should be tar and feathered by his/her state board. What a bunch of BS ! !!

[RickB-OR]

Originally Posted by that_ideadude

The "star" architect who "hired" him into intern slavery should be tar and feathered by his/her state board. What a bunch of BS ! !!

Geez.... Architecture is like the ONLY profession that internship is without pay.... How the F*** did that happen?

In every other profession, internship is a fancy word for On the Job Training where you are trained AND paid for the work you do by your EMPLOYER. Internship is a long form of On the Job Training. Another word for it is called Apprenticeship. Apprentices in Construction field gets paid. Low pay but is paid. Internship is a white-collar occupations term for apprentice (which has a blue-collar connotation). While Apprenticeship or Internship has the connotation of being more in-depth and of longer duration then what is typically referred to as "OJT" (On-the Job Training).

Where are the retards in this Architectural profession get the idea that internship is free labor. It never was. Even in the medical profession it is not free labor. Of course, sometimes the work pay is supplemented by college financial aid work study funds or similar payment which relieves the hospital of paying directly during the summer internships.

Heck, even in alot of these occupations where the positions is called "Volunteer" positions (they aren't entirely volunteer or unpaid). It just means the pay is handled under some sort of grant for the position.

Hence the term "paid volunteer".

Yet, we get sleezy architects and seemingly dumber interns willing to invest more then 5 hours a week of unpaid labor. Amazing.

I'm harshly critical of the situation - hopefully those just entering Internship or in internship to pay attention and know that being required to work for nothing for more then 10 hrs a week is stupid. Especially for a "For-profit" organization like most architectural firms. Non-profits, you can get tax write-offs for the labor. BUT, c'mon.

It is sad to see this. You got to live and what is amazing is HOW the heck did the fellow live for the past 4 years?

[Not Dead Yet]

When I started in architecture in the mid-90's there were still some firms that wanted to hire unpaid interns. I went on several interviews in the Boston area and all of them were unpaid. I heard from older architects that this was common in the 70's and 80's and only died out as late as the 90's.

Some of the most degrading interviews I've been on; 'I saw on your resume that you didn't go to Harvard or MIT, well we have two unpaid interns from Harvard here. What makes you think your better than them?'

[Coach]

[QUOTE=RickB-OR;1057348]Geez.... Architecture is like the ONLY profession that internship is without pay.... How the F*** did that happen?

Not true. Have yo checked out craigslist lately? There are plenty of others breaking the law.

What is interesting is that it seems that many/most are in the creative professions. I've seen number of ads for graphic designers, interior design, etc. It seems that a lack of business sense is the common thread.

Where are the retards in this Architectural profession get the idea that internship is free labor. It never was.

QUOTE]

Oh Ricky boy, you need to check out some history.

I thought you read that online book by the FLW apprentice. Not only did they work for free, the intern had to pay for the privilege!